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Old 06-13-2013, 04:54 PM   #1
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Smile Where are all the "bad campers"?

I'm a relative newbie; not life or to camping and RVing but to this site. I keep reading posts about the bad person lurking in the shadows and the obnoxious campers.

I'm 50 so not too old and not too young.

Do I just live in a vacuum and I'm naive? Or am I the bad camper?

Every time I go camping I have a great time; I consume some adult beverages and enjoy myself while watching others enjoy themselves.

I've never "called the office", or thought someone was intentionally poisoning me with their generator or been upset for someone talking, laughing and having fun at a nearby campfire. If a kid cuts through it's not a big deal and if the neighbors friendly dog wanders over to say hi I dont reprimand the owners. I've stepped in poo and never tried to do a genetic test to determine who the perpetrator was.....


I just have fun! Where do all the heavy browed comments come from?

Isn't this supposed to be fun?

See ya out there! ---- I'll be the one smiling

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gee that's the way I am...no reason to sue some one over left poo...there are some on here that call lawyers on regular basis it seems ... geez life is just that...handle it.. like every time some one looks at an old coach ..the consensus is better change those tires, there gonna blow..well common sense is just that, don't be alarmed at all the negatives...have a good time and handle the time at will...jeff
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Old 06-13-2013, 06:08 PM   #3
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Richard, I think you always have a good time BECAUSE of your attitude. Often times things are what we make them.

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Old 06-13-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
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Richard:
Always fun to be in the "Glass half full" club. I always remember the good times, the folks that have helped. All the ones that let me in when that "merge" kinda didn't pan out. Young fellas that set their adult beverages down at a campground to help me maneuver through a tight fit. Advice from fellow campers early on (and on IRV2) that has made RVing more enjoyable.
I remember the grouches and ignoramuses but not for long, and the really good news, haven't stepped in it yet, don't plan too. (Therefore I probably won't be exactly following in your footsteps, based on your track record)

Thanks for a good post....
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:49 PM   #5
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It is what it is. There are good and there are bad. For me the good outweighs the bad, but there are still bad times out there. Having a party, drinking, playing music is not a "bad" thing, but there are limits. If the party is very loud and goes into the wee hours, if the drinking ends up in brawls, and if the music is from one of those "air powered cars," or just down right to loud, and especially if it is not the genre I like, then it is bad - for me - for us.

Nothing within reason is bad. Not all things are good, but most are.

Edited: The rules of the park say to pick up after you pooch. Why can't that be done? I do it, and the majority of pet owners do it. Why does the 1% have to just leave it, or why does the 1% have to let their pooch go into someone else space to do their "duty." That is bad manners.

I have a dog. She is an 80 pound Husky. She loves people. After being attacked by another dog when she was 18 months old it has left her a little hostile when other dogs approach her. So what is wrong with the unleashed, untethered puppy coming over to say hi? Nothing for me, but it will end up as a fluffy throw toy if they get to close to her, and possibly cause harm. That is what the problem is when dogs run loose - for me - for us.
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Wow… I am with Richard. I enjoy meeting friends I never knew. Seeing things I never saw. Watching and learning what others like to do.

If I do not like what they do at night. I get the last laugh by opening a window while I snore!

Life is good….
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Wow… I am with Richard. I enjoy meeting friends I never knew. Seeing things I never saw. Watching and learning what others like to do.

If I do not like what they do at night. I get the last laugh by opening a window while I snore!

Life is good….
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Old 06-14-2013, 10:14 AM   #9
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I'm a relative newbie; not life or to camping and RVing but to this site. I keep reading posts about the bad person lurking in the shadows and the obnoxious campers.
Most campers are "good neighbors." Most camping experiences are positive or we'd all be giving up on camping in droves.

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I'm 50 so not too old and not too young.
Do I just live in a vacuum and I'm naive? Or am I the bad camper?
It may depend on where you camp also. What kind of CGs you choose.

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Every time I go camping I have a great time; I consume some adult beverages and enjoy myself while watching others enjoy themselves.
Those who consume adult beverages are usually in no condition to even hear wild parties and barking dogs and loud music late into the night. If you can't hear those things and be kept awake by them, you're either on some serious strong meds, inebriated or deaf. Most nights in the CGs are quiet after quiet time.

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I've never "called the office", or thought someone was intentionally poisoning me with their generator or been upset for someone talking, laughing and having fun at a nearby campfire.
See above. You're choosing places where these things are not tolerated by the Hosts. Or the other things apply.


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I just have fun! Where do all the heavy browed comments come from?
Isn't this supposed to be fun?
See ya out there! ---- I'll be the one smiling
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I also love people having a good time. When I go to bed and and the party is still rolling next to or by me, I do not care one bit. I will still fall asleep. The one thing that would upset me is people fighting. That is not a pleasant sound.
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Richard,

They are out there, but like anything else, it is the 1% that attract the attention. There are inconsiderate people everywhere, there seem to be fewer camping than elsewhere, and it seems that the less "Modern" the campground is, the fewer there are. (Or, at least it seems that way to us.)

So, I wish you many happy days of no smokey fires, loud "music" and dog's not picked up after. I many years, I only remember one of these.

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I think the trick is to lean how to grin and bear it when it sucks and revel in it when it is all good. Yes, I dislike bad mannered pet owners and inconsiderate neighbors. It will happen. In the end, RVing is best enjoyed if you don't sweat the small stuff. I try but sometimes it doesn't work out that way but I keep trying because life is too short to get all up in arms all the time over the little stuff. I keep my powder dry for the big stuff.
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High browed comments?
I think what he actually said was "heavy browed comments" and I took that to refer to folks who might be "grouchy" and complaining?

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I'm a relative newbie; not life or to camping and RVing but to this site. I keep reading posts about the bad person lurking in the shadows and the obnoxious campers.

I'm 50 so not too old and not too young.

Do I just live in a vacuum and I'm naive? Or am I the bad camper?
I'm about the same as your description above, minus a couple years perhaps, but otherwise we sound alike in many ways and I'd like to say that you are not alone in your observations. I've never had much of any trouble camping either.

Sure, we see a lot of seriously challenged people (like the people across the way recently who burned the whole bundle of wood at once (complete with plastic wrap) but I've never had anyone actually ruin my camping experience. Screaming children, barking dogs, loud radio/TV/generators/tow vehicles/etc. are just part of the experience and have been for as long as I've been alive so they don't really factor that much.

That said, I'm pretty sure I'd be considered a 'bad camper' by some despite never having any of our neighbors ever indicate in the slightest that we caused them problems, and here's why
  • Our dogs bark, but never during quiet time, and even if they were to bark a lot they would still generate far less noise than your average child, diesel engine, 'cornhole' game (still can't get used to that name!) or generator, all of which we hear during the non-quiet hours on a regular basis.
  • We allow our dogs to relieve themselves on the ground, repeatedly(!), but we always pick up their 'presents'. Note: we will leave the 'presents' of the racoons, bears, deer, etc. that occur naturally in our space for nature to take care of in it's own way.
  • We cook over a campfire or charcoal rather than propane, and we do it outside , (but we don't build raging bonfires, cut up local, green trees for firewood, burn painted wood, etc.)
  • etc.
You're just never going to please all the people all the time no matter what you do or how hard you try, and since it's far easier to be critical of others than to give a kind word (especially on the Internet), the bad experiences tend to get a lot of public attention while the good tend to stay squirreled away in memories. The best you can do is to be respectful of the rights of others as well as to your own when in any shared space, be it a campground or anywhere else, and hope that others do the same...

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