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Old 11-25-2012, 04:59 PM   #57
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Spam is blanketed to millions worldwide, most of us are not interested in Nigerian Princes, Viagra, Canadian drugs or penis enlargement.



Damn !! And I thought I was the only one receiving spam concerning these subjects.

I also do the same as you with junk mail and pre-paid envelopes.
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Old 11-25-2012, 05:02 PM   #58
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I used to do that but it was more hassle than it was worth; the junk mail kept on coming. I don't mind junk mail too much; it takes only a few seconds to drop it in the trash. Same for spam; it takes only a few seconds to delete it from my inbox. Telemarketers and political calls, on the other hand, I do mind. The b*****ds are selfishly using the phone service I put in for MY personal use and demand I interrupt my life to deal with them at the time they decide call me (being on the Fed DNC list doesn't deter the telemarketers). The inconsiderate, selfish donkey excavations force me to take draconian measures to avoid them, reducing the value of the service I am paying for. For three months prior to the last election, I had to turn off the ringers on my phones because of the political calls flooding my phone line (the 30 number call block feature on my phones would fill up in three days). There has been a lull since the elections but if the telemarketers start up again (btw, I do not give out my phone number to anyone), I'm yanking the phone line.

Rant over. You are now being returned to your regularly scheduled thread.
Yeah, isn't it wonderful how the &$%^#! politicians managed to exempt themselves from the Do Not Call list? Why the whole lot didn't get turned out in the last election I just don't know.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:22 PM   #59
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Here is a fairly plain English Bloomberg article outlining the USPS pension cost mess. Here is an OpEd w/a different tone, and some useful additional info from the ultra left wing NY Times. Here are the take-aways:
1) NYTimes believes nobody should pay in real time for the liabilities generated by pension promises. Duuuuuhhhhh, obviously not too bright. If I worked at the PO, I'd want my pension benefits funded, because I'm not stupid. Bloomberg notes that 1/4 of private businesses pay pension benefits in real time; pretty sure they're talking about public stock companies, because all small businesses I know fund all pension promises in real time.
2) Even if they make all payments for pensions the PO is now missing, they will ultimately be $46 billion short, a cost which falls to taxpayers. Happy us.
3) The pension payments, when & if made, get "invested" in special Treasury securities. In other words, the money is lent to the General Fund where it is spent and it is gone. So the liabilities are transferred to us, the taxpayer, to shell out when the T-bills come due. Basically this is a hustle to rob the PO to assist reducing the deficit, and simply places the pension liabilities in a different place on the Nation's balance sheet, sort of an accounting practical joke just like the T-bills that "fund" Social Security. Money that should be set aside in useful equities that stand a chance of being there for retirees gets spent, just like all money in the general vicinity of the financial event horizon know as Washington DC.
4) Notwithsanding the above, the PO is losing money every year ANYWAY. Wouldn't matter if they didn't have to pay to partially fund pension promises, they can't figure out how to deliver mail at a profit as long as they don't have to. This is the real problem for all of us who would like to have a functional PO service in competition w/the private biggies.
5) NYTimes notes that all over Europe this music has been faced, and the postal services have been successfully privatized. Imagine that. Remove the cloak of imbecility (government), make it a do or die proposition, and necessity (the Mother of Invention) takes over to rationalize the business, deliver mail, and do it w/out losing piles of cash each year. If only there were a magical way to do that on this side of the Atlantic, hmmmm...... I guess we could just, um, do it?
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:23 PM   #60
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:42 PM   #61
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Can someone please tell me why we need the USPS?
I do my banking on line. My retirements are direct deposit. I receive my statements by email.
My utilities are direct charge to my credit card. I receive my credit card statements by email.
I receive mail from my friends and family by email. My magazines can be read online. I can even read the newspaper online.
I file my income tax return online and the refund (if any) is direct deposited into my bank account.
If I need an item I usually know what store it is in, cause I saw it there one time, and I verify online it is there and if it is close I go and get it. If it is not close I order it and UPS or FEDEX delivers it. If I don't know where the item is I research it online.
The only thing I get in my mail box is junk. This junk goes into the trash can and winds up in a landfill.
We do not send 10 pieces of mail a year and those could be done online.
I few years ago there was a big stink about unsolicited phone calls and email spam, if I remember correctly congress got involved. Unsolicited mail in my mailbox is spam, where is congress?
I would like to see the USPS desolved. Then I could remove the mailbox, that would make cutting the lawn easier.
Sorry to ramble on but I am serious, I am not trying to be funny or critical. I would really like to know what is the USPS good for today.
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The short answer is that everyone is not as electronic as you are. I think it's safe for you to take down your mail box now. Happy mowing .
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I really enjoyed the discussion by everyone. I did not know there were that many experts in this forum, we should discuss World Peace next.
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The short answer is that everyone is not as electronic as you are. I think it's safe for you to take down your mail box now. Happy mowing .
I guess your right Cliff . I don't think of myself as being on the cutting edge and according to my grandchildren I am old fashion. I don't do any social networking online, I don't even text . I wonder what the post office would do if I took it down. I think I will find out.
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Don't leave stuff (packages that do not fit in your P.O. Box) for more than 10 working days. Not including Sat. & Sun. I had a package sent to my P.O. Box. I didn't get up there until 8 days after it was delivered and the Post Office Sent it back to the sender.
And it took then some time to get it back to the sender. This was a priority mail package also.

Also don't complain to the clerks they are Adam Henry's that are very rude and condescending !
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No, I'm not kidding. Bulk mailers with the USPS look for a return rate of about 1% or so. Bulk mail is usually targeted to potential customers, and the postage (reduced) limits how many and where its mailed. Spam is blanketed to millions worldwide, most of us are not interested in Nigerian Princes, Viagra, Canadian drugs or penis enlargement.

When a bulk mailer includes a postage paid envelope, I rip up the contents, stuff the envelope and mail it back to the sender, giving the USPS additional revenue. I can't do that with spam.
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When a bulk mailer includes a postage paid envelope, I rip up the contents, stuff the envelope and mail it back to the sender, giving the USPS additional revenue. I can't do that with spam.
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I thought I was the only one that did this...
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hehe.. Another one who does it..
Here I thought I was the only one... hehehe

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I enjoy mixing it up, sending AmEx a Mastercard application, Visa a Discovery app, and so on. In my college days, we'd affix the postage paid postcards found on campus bulletin boards to bricks found on demolition sites and drop them in mailboxes. It cuts down on my trash stream and gives me a warm spot in my heart. My wife doesn't understand.
Oh wow, even I didn't think of this... and I'm the EVIL ONE!
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Never thought of that, thanks, now I have a new hobby
I'm glad to know there are MORE out there that share my hobby too.

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I used to do that but it was more hassle than it was worth; the junk mail kept on coming. I don't mind junk mail too much; it takes only a few seconds to drop it in the trash. Same for spam; it takes only a few seconds to delete it from my inbox. Telemarketers and political calls, on the other hand, I do mind. The b*****ds are selfishly using the phone service I put in for MY personal use and demand I interrupt my life to deal with them at the time they decide call me (being on the Fed DNC list doesn't deter the telemarketers). The inconsiderate, selfish donkey excavations force me to take draconian measures to avoid them, reducing the value of the service I am paying for. For three months prior to the last election, I had to turn off the ringers on my phones because of the political calls flooding my phone line (the 30 number call block feature on my phones would fill up in three days). There has been a lull since the elections but if the telemarketers start up again (btw, I do not give out my phone number to anyone), I'm yanking the phone line.

Rant over. You are now being returned to your regularly scheduled thread.
I'm retired, I have lota time. :<)

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I really enjoyed the discussion by everyone. I did not know there were that many experts in this forum, we should discuss World Peace next.

If everyone would get out of our way, we could solve the world's problems within a week.........
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Lady Fitz, check out Google Voice for robo caller relief.
I have and it wouldn't work for me (I forget why and I'm too lazy to check again).
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If the search engine worked, we wouldn't have anything to post about.
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