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Old 11-19-2010, 08:42 PM   #1
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115V socket replacement

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the original power outlets in our Bounder are old and from what I hear the RV ones just have the wiring *push in* to connectors ? Instead of the house fixed wire?

Excuse my head scratching, Ive dealt with UK house mains sockets before but as yet haven't messed with US household sockets let alone RV specific ones.

Reading on here also something about duplex and non duplex sockets? We have the usual mixture of GFI and standard sockets, the one in the bathroom in particular needs replacement(GFI) as the bthroom renovation is going well and a new sink & cupboard have been put in, with the socket needing to be mounted either in the new cupboard or somewhere else, thought it wise to replace them ( plus do a refresh of the other sockets too) On checking the socket it has wires coming into and then out of the box but appears to be the end of a particular circuit. Which kind would be suitable duplex or standard? They are all 3 hole/pin sockets.

Would it be possible to extend this circuit via a sealed junction box? Or would I have to run a new load of wire to the longer length?

Thanks in advance for any help Time to take a trip to Hdepot for a book on wiring !!
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:47 AM   #2
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Would it be possible to extend this circuit via a sealed junction box? Or would I have to run a new load of wire to the longer length?

Thanks in advance for any help Time to take a trip to Hdepot for a book on wiring !!
As far as extending a wire, the use of a standard box is exactly what the manufacturer did with the fuse box wiring to an outlet if you need a comparison. Now, the "standard" RV outlet - isn't!! Manufacturers use various kinds of easy to wire outlets so they can push out production. A standard QUALITY 15 outlet, using the screw connections (I will not recommend the push in connections that most outlets have) will work just fine. Now, when I say standard, I suggest that you do not use those .69 cent cheapies that places like Home Depot have in a big box. I do recommend the 2-3 dollar versions. I've replaced several in my 5er using the Leviton Decora which seem to be excellent outlets. The boxes - the plastic ones are just fine. If you extend wires, wire nuts will work, but there are better choices like soldering or screw type mechanical connectors and either well taped or with heat shrink tubing

Ok - now there's the wire to consider. Most RV products have 15 amp outlets and often no others heavier. You will need a minimum of 14 awg wire for them.
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RV style devices (plugs and switches both) are designed for use WITHOUT a junction box or wirenuts... to isolate the actually live voltage connection points INSIDE that housing. The expensive standard devices are no better or safer than the cheaper ones in this application. BOTH are wrong.

This is a safety matter that standard devices can't provide because (with a very few exceptions) there are NO junction boxes being used... because there is NO ROOM for one in the thin walls.
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RV style devices (plugs and switches both) are designed for use WITHOUT a junction box or wirenuts... to isolate the actually live voltage connection points INSIDE that housing. The expensive standard devices are no better or safer than the cheaper ones in this application. BOTH are wrong.

This is a safety matter that standard devices can't provide because (with a very few exceptions) there are NO junction boxes being used... because there is NO ROOM for one in the thin walls.

I don't know what you own - but my 5er has room for real junction boxes which I have added when necessary to replace receptacles. And as far as cheap vs better recetacles - you are absolutely wrong!!!
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I don't know what you own - but my 5er has room for real junction boxes which I have added when necessary to replace receptacles. And as far as cheap vs better recetacles - you are absolutely wrong!!!
This style of gang box is most commonly used in RV applications for 110 volt because it can be easily fit in a 2x2 wall.

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Thanks for all the great advice !

Will be making that trip to the stores armed with the info & a shopping list.
Once the updating & renovating of the bathroom is done or nearer to being finished will post some pictures. At the moment its looking worse than a bombsite!

Just out of curiosity regardind the main power cable/hook up & plug, our original plug is looking tired and thought while replacing the plug might aswell replace the 30amp hookup cable too. At the moment its hard wired into a box, is it worth updating to a detachable cable? Or just rewire with heavy duty cable (hardwired that is) .
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