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Old 06-12-2010, 05:21 AM   #1
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1969 duke 16 footer travel trailer

Well im fixing up a pretty bad duke, having a good time getting ready to repalce the floor! anyhow i was wondering if any of you guys just let the grey water flow into a hole you dug when camping, cause i have no tanks in mine they were removed, and want to use shower and wash hands and stuff.. im going to put a bucket under the toilet and have the hole for the toilet just have the bucket under it to catch stuff, or line the toilet with a trash bag and people can go potty then take their bag out when they are done and tire it up.

kinda primitive but wonder if anyone has done it these ways on here
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:23 AM   #2
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Most places now have rules against dumping gray water on the ground. EPA and laws prevent this practice.

You should invest in a Blue Tote Tank to capture the gray water.

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You can buy new poly tanks, simply do a google for replacement black/grey tanks for RVs. While, I've been known to run my gray water out on the ground, it's usually going directly under the rig into the gravel, or into my filter bucket, which looks like a regular 5 gallon bucket, except the bottoms been drilled and its filled with differing layers of sand, and gravel to filter out the particulate, similar to a runoff swale you see beside roads nowadays that help remove pollutants from run off from roads before they re-enter streams/creeks/etc.
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You can buy new poly tanks, simply do a google for replacement black/grey tanks for RVs. While, I've been known to run my gray water out on the ground, it's usually going directly under the rig into the gravel, or into my filter bucket, which looks like a regular 5 gallon bucket, except the bottoms been drilled and its filled with differing layers of sand, and gravel to filter out the particulate, similar to a runoff swale you see beside roads nowadays that help remove pollutants from run off from roads before they re-enter streams/creeks/etc.

them blue totes are a pain in a a$$ we used to use them at the rv shop i was a tech at. anyhow i think i will run it to a drilled bucket like redneck says, sounds good to me, and just capture the black in a bag to dispose of.. later in a gas station trash can! he he he

I will post some pictures of my flor replacement im doing right now tonight or tomarrow in this thread.

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The state park rangers in some places look for gray water offenders and will ticket you if you are caught. I do not see the tote tanks as a real inconvenience and you are not running afoul of any regulations. It all goes back to the "Take only pictures and leave only footprints." motto.

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The state park rangers in some places look for gray water offenders and will ticket you if you are caught. I do not see the tote tanks as a real inconvenience and you are not running afoul of any regulations. It all goes back to the "Take only pictures and leave only footprints." motto.

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i dont camp in campgrounds, so i doublt i will have problems, but i will filter it thru a bucket like redneck does, or capture it if i have to in buckets. anyhow getting going on the floor repairs,.. will post some pictures tonight, by the way i found the black tank hehehe! never did find a grey one. its damaged so im going with a bucket or toilet and a back lining it way.

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heres some pics of the partial floor repair, getting things going ran out of materials, so its not done yet..
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The state park rangers in some places look for gray water offenders and will ticket you if you are caught. I do not see the tote tanks as a real inconvenience and you are not running afoul of any regulations. It all goes back to the "Take only pictures and leave only footprints." motto.

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Just so the records clear, I don't use the aforementioned method in SPs, just BLM/USFS campgrounds where there's no gray disposal of any kind and the nearest ranger is about 60 miles away. A pit toilet being available (And a source of fresh water on site) are usually the only plushes.

SPs, I just use the one big onboard tank as combined as I usually use the park showers if they're clean, or which is more likely the case I'm only staying a night.

I did build the bucket to look exactly like the exterior filling tank that our local SPs have in their brochures, but I'd rather not get into a pissing contest with a local high schooler that's doing a summer job of patrolling the park.

I do own a 30 gallon blue barker tote that I can tow, and for a small rig, its a bit of a PITA to haul if you've not got an available truck bed (Wouldn't want to haul it in the back of a van or suburban) or boat to toss it in. I'm still trying to work out a crankible lift of some kind to hang it from the underside of the camper's overhang so that its out of the way.
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well getting closer to closing back up the floor from above with plywood, what do you guys use if anything to coat your floor joists and plywood underneeth ? this had alumimum sheeting that had corroded or wore away in spots that im throwing out since i dont want it trapping moisture again and causing rot in the floor.. dont really wanna enclose the bottom with anything for this reason, but wouldnt mind some protection for the wood

Maybe i should just coat it with some exterior house paint, i wonder if that would get a nick in it and then trap some water and cause rot.. hmmm im willing just to leave it untouched and redo it ever 5 or 10 years if it would last that long tho.

On the wheelwells, they are metal with some stable holes and some damage around mounting flanges. i think im going to use that cheap undercoating onthem just to seal the small holes and little cracks some.
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Do you plan to install any insulation under the floor? Traditionally on modern trailers there's a heavy rubber tarp or plywood layer that's painted with oil base black paint, then 6" or so of bat insulation that hangs under the floor joists, then upper level of plywood floor.

Coating it with either a marine epoxy paint, or a Heruculite rubber undercoater would both be good options, just remember to liberally caulk around all holes in the floor where things pass through.
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nope no insulation, it just causes problems with moisture usually. i dont camp when it gets below 32 F much either. Im thinking i will just spray coat it with some outdoor deck stain that i got laying around after its all together, then maybe later make panels to enclose it if i decide to insulate with some of them blue foam boards, cut to fit and then secure them up with some thin luan plywood.

another thing i am thinking about is wrapping the lower front under the metal panels with some tyvek material, and behind the paneling inside putting a vapor barrier of bisqueen.
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