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Old 04-30-2013, 04:00 PM   #1
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1983 Fleet Wood Pace Arrow Tranny E Brake

Hi I have a 1983 Fleet Wood Pace Arrow. The E brake is not working I traced it to the rear of the transmission. to a Torque Converter Looking thing In Between the tranny and the rear drive shaft. It seems to be leaking Transmission Fluid. Dose anyone know what it is and how it works?
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:05 PM   #2
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Welcome to IRV2. Hope you get some answers here.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:13 PM   #3
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That is your parking brake. I had one go bad on a ford driveline. It ended up getting metal filings into transmision. Ruined both tranny and parking brake. You should have it checked asap.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:05 AM   #4
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Thanks for the welcome! Well looks like iam going to have to take it apart and see whats happening in there. I was trying to avoid that lol. I wonder if its a submerged brake pad. I just can't see it being a locking gear. If it was the thing would explode if you used it while driving.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:10 AM   #5
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We used to have an '84 Pace Arrow, so I'm familiar with that setup. The big drum behind the transmission is the parking brake. It's just a big drum brake, like cars used to have at the wheels before disc brakes took over. The parking brake is activated mechanically by the lever or pedal in the cab.

The transmission fluid may be coming from the tail seal on the transmission. Have it all checked out, including the parking brake and its brake shoes, as they may be contaminated from the leak now.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:17 AM   #6
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thx I just found this too Chevy P-30 Auto Parking Brake (welcome to our nightmare)
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but thats more for the transmission park selection
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Hate to say it, but it's time to get dirty. If you also have a leak you will be replacing a few items.

New shoes/ hardware kit (Do it all, trust me on this)

Output shaft seal (most likely), but verify and make sure. No reason to replace good items.

I would do a flush on the ATF fluid. Since you are there change the Trans filter also.
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Funrover hit right on the head on a heavy vehicle the parking pawl in the transmission will not hold and the rear brakes are too big to set by hand so they use a miniature version of the rear brakes ck to see if the rear transmission bushing isn't worn out by trying to move the brake assembly up and down once you remove the drive line.
if good and it probably will be tear it down taking pictures as you go clean it up replace the rear transmission seal and rebuild with new part don't skimp because there is the chance in the past the brake has been dragging and got hot which will ruin the springs tension not a bad job just take your time
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New shoes/ hardware kit (Do it all, trust me on this)

Output shaft seal (most likely), but verify and make sure. No reason to replace good items.

I would do a flush on the ATF fluid. Since you are there change the Trans filter also.
+1 on that! While you have it all apart, it's worth checking thoroughly and doing it right.

Luckily, this is a simple mechanical park brake drum. No autopark to worry about. For the uninitiated out there, autopark is an auto-apply park brake system on P-series chassis that started in the '90s. It uses the transmission selector "Park" position, but there's no park pawl in it. It just switches in the autopark system that acts on the park brake drum. My '92 Winnie has the early version...
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Ok thanks. I hope its not too bad it only have 54k on it.Its just been sitting and rotting at thompson speed way for years! But ill probably make a brake down for hear. No pun intended lol
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Sitting, not moving for years pretty much guarantees seals will dry out. So will belts and hoses. The power steering belt is particularly no fun -- ask me how I know!

Keep an eye on your fuel lines, too. The ones on our old Pace Arrow rotted and leaked. Replacing them is a challenge.
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Well i took it apart. the cable is not hooked up and the seal part number says its out of a different car and its a crankshaft seal.one of the previous owners has done a number to this thing lol. I assuming its leaking because its the wrong part because it looks fine but idk. Now just to check the timing. the rods where bent in it. probably not the reason but I dont want to take the chance of bending the new ones. And I have a leak somewhere in the power steering. I am hoping its the rubber pipe.
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I think i have the GMC THM400 not totally sure yet. and Thanks everyone!
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