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Old 05-29-2014, 04:35 PM   #1
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1988 Ford E350 class C wont start

So a friend has gotten a '88 E350 with a 460 for a good price. Motorhome itself looks to be in good shape. the drawback it was purchased sight unseen.

Not sure what symptoms it has other than it wont start. I was told they tried using a booster pack but still wouldnt start. Again not sure if they even had it cranking.

So i am going tomorow to try and get this baby running. It is about 75 miles from home.
My plan 1st is to make sure battery is charged. i will be bringing a fully charged one along.
a little starting fluid to see if it will fire and help rule out a fuel issue.

He was quoted $1500 to tow it the 75 miles (150 miles roundtrip for the wrecker) which is just too much.

Looking for suggestions. Any common issues on these? I know this is as vague as it can get and more information is needed.

Where is the fuelpump located on these? is it in tank or would there be an electric external pump?

My game plan: bring Battery, spark plugs, oil, antifreeze, jumper cables, basic tools and see what I can come up with and hopefully drive it home...

again I am open to suggestions
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:34 PM   #2
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Make sure transmission is in Park. When ignition is turned on, the fuel pump should turn on for a few seconds, listen for it. Fuel pump I believe is in the fuel tank. Often a clogged fuel filter can cause no start, you might want to pick up a spare. Check for 12 v at starter, you can jump across the starter solenoid to test starter. How long has it not been running? Carb could be full of bad fuel, take carb cleaner with you.
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Make sure transmission is in Park. When ignition is turned on, the fuel pump should turn on for a few seconds, listen for it. Fuel pump I believe is in the fuel tank. Often a clogged fuel filter can cause no start, you might want to pick up a spare. Check for 12 v at starter, you can jump across the starter solenoid to test starter. How long has it not been running? Carb could be full of bad fuel, take carb cleaner with you.
Fuel filter....good suggestion...add that to my list. not sure how long its been since it ran.

It was a "donated" vehicle for a tax write off. it got towed from a local campground to an auction.

So if it was a permanent campsite, it may have not ran in awhile. it made it to the campground so that is promising right? LOL

Im thinking fuel or spark are going to be my main areas of concern tomorrow.
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Old 05-29-2014, 06:43 PM   #4
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Check the air filter. Could be mouse infested.
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1st, does it turn over with the starter? if it does, it is not locked up.
2nd, check to see if it has spark, if it has spark, then go on to fuel. If no spark, check module, and/or coil.
3rd, once you have spark, pour a little gas into the carb and try to start, this will tell you if you have a fuel problem.
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If its been sitting more than a couple years the fuel may never fire, if its been sitting several years you may not want it to fire up till you get some oil soaking in the cylinders
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If you decide to tow, call around. You will find a better price. I had 2 tows on my class A 33' recently and they were $425 and $650 for 20 and 39 miles. $150/hr is pretty common.
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If you decide to tow, call around. You will find a better price. I had 2 tows on my class A 33' recently and they were $425 and $650 for 20 and 39 miles. $150/hr is pretty common.
im hoping not to have to tow it at all.. there is no way I would pay $1500 to tow it home.

I found a Ford mechanic (student) on facebook, who is willing to give a hand with it...

Hopefully this time tomorrow night I will be posting about our journey home
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When you do get it running and before heading down the road I would take a long hard look at the tires. There's a pretty good chance they are rotten if this has been parked for an extended time.
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Our mh had been sitting for 8 years or more, so the tank, fuel lines, filters, and carb were all vanish. I am surprised I got it home. Anyway, I had the tank boiled out and re-coated, replaced all the fuel line, replaced the filters, new fuel pump, and a complete re-manufacture of the carb. Did a complete tune up and filled with fresh gas; it now runs like a top. We did not have mice in the air filter, but it was full of mud dobbers(sp?)

Spark, gas, air, & compression are needed for the vehicle to run; if anyone of them is missing, it is going no where fast under its own steam

Best of luck, I will be rooting for you
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So I saw the motorhome for the 1st time today. It is a 1988 ford e350..it is clean.. just under 45,000 original miles

Cranks good Fuel gauge was on Empty. I put a few gallons in and tried to start again...Nothing.

Im thinking fuel pump.

I found a pump on the frame rail below the drivers seat area. When I turned the key on, I could not hear anything from the pump.

Im thinking fuel pump or possibly relay??

I got to talking to someone who knew someone that owns a towing company....I gave him a call and he agreed to bring it back for me ( 70 miles) for $300, I f I dropped the driveshaft and had it ready to go.

So I set that up for Monday. it will be much nicer to work on in my own driveway compared to the gravel it was currently in.

So do any of you know is there 1 or 2 fuel pumps on these 1988's? My research shows there may be one in the tank as well?

Any of you have experience with the relays and/or changing the fuel pumps?
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In my 88 E250 chassis there is a primer pump in each fuel tank and a main pump just inside the frame rail as you mentioned.
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Well I got it towed back to town last night. I tried a shot of starting fluid and it fired, so I know I got spark and no fuel issue going on.

I replaced the fuel pump relay under the hood on the passenger side. still no sound coming from the fuel pumps.

Gnats have been terrible so that was about as much as i could tolerate.

Im going to get under it again tonight to see if i got any power at the external pump with the key on.

If i do I will replace the pump. if no power to the pump I will look elsewhere.

Keep the suggestions coming. i want this baby running by the weekend
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Safety switch...

These years ford has a switch that cuts off fuel pump in roll over or sometimes they just open up.

Simple push button someplace.

In pickups there was a label with instructions on later years.

Not sure about yours.

Try google fuel pump cutoff ford and see what you find.

May be some ford guys here as well.
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