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Old 05-11-2012, 02:41 PM   #197
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I carry 3 spare lighters now.

Ron, what is taking you so long to get that motor running? If you're like me with no friends, I can understand. Charge the van battery real good and put it in the MH.
Too few friends willing to help. People seem to think that my big bad mh will blow up their vehicle. I don't have a battery charger or I would have done that already. My biggest problem is too little to work on it.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:04 PM   #198
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I don't have any friends either, but I "get-er-done" when I have to. You wouldn't believe what I have done all by my lonesome.
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I changed the motor completely alone, which is probably why it won't start. Lol. Lugging that engine lift in and out of the RV alone was nothing nice. Aside from dropping the new motor in, the lift was the most difficult part for me.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:08 PM   #200
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Too few friends willing to help. People seem to think that my big bad mh will blow up their vehicle. I don't have a battery charger or I would have done that already. My biggest problem is too little to work on it.
Dio Like said in the previous post..

Worst case, you have to pull your Van's batt and use it in the MH..
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:56 PM   #201
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When they replace mine, they removed the front axle and springs, and used this modified U shaped apparatus on the inside to lower/raise the engine. It had a winch on it. Think of something like a C clamp without the screw. I think it also had a brace on the rear. More like a flattened tripod.
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I'm at my MH now. I check my battery's negative wire, it's bolted to the front of the motor. I checked my firing order and it matches what people posted here. I don't want to use my van's battery because of the problem I'm having. I'm not sure if I corrected the problem yet because I can't get it to turn over. When it did turn over, the negative post on my battery was melting. I just don't understand why it's not getting enough juice from being jumped. If I connect the cables battery to battery I get barely enough to make it click. If I start my van to to get extra juice from the alternator it cranks for about 1/2 turn and dies. I let it sit and charge for say 20 minutes that gives it enough juice to turn over 1 1/2 times. I don't get it. I'd say the juice is getting interrupted by something so not all of it is making it to the starter. I really wish I knew someone who knew what they were doing that could assess my situation. I'm clueless now.
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Can you disconnect the original wire to the starter, connect the jumper cable from your van directly to where the wire to the starter was and ground the other on on the MH frame and try it?
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Ron,

What you are describing is a completely dead RV battery. When you use jumper cables, you are limited to the amount of current that will flow through those cables to charge up the dead battery. Can you remove the chassis battery and see if an auto parts store will charge it back up for you?

Negative battery cable burning sounds like you need to remove the ground cable and wire brush all surfaces, then reconnect. High heat means high resistance.
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Is it difficult to remove the battery from the van and just try it in the MH alone?
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Is it difficult to remove the battery from the van and just try it in the MH alone?
Actually, yes. For some strange reason I have my external fuses are placed right over my battery. It takes a good 15 minutes to take everything off to get the battery out. But, like I said, I really don't want to use the van battery just in case I haven't resolved the post melting issue yet. Then I'd have two bad batteries.
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Charge the MH battery with the van, check the voltage at the MH battery with the van hooked up. Should be 13.6 to 14.2v. After charging until you think it is up check the MH battery voltage, should be over 12.5v. Then check the voltage with while trying to crank the engine. Should not drop below 11v if it is a proper sized battery for the engine. If it does either the starter is toast or the battery. Since you have already checked out the starter probably the battery.
Did you take the spark plugs out of the engine and try to crank it? This will reduce the power needed to crank it.
If you have an analog voltmeter with a needle this works better to check the cranking voltage.
The advice to clean all the connection points for the starter wires is good advice. You can also check the voltage drop at these connections while trying to crank it.
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Here is your problem. You are trying to jumpstart with a suspect battery. A starter requires over 100 amps to start a big V-8. Most jumper cables cannot supply that due to the size of the wire and the spring clamps used.

What is the voltage of the battery in the RV now? You would be better off disconnecting that battery and jumping directly to the starter as suggested. Did you have the starter tested. Many places will do it for free.

Get a charger. They are not that expensive. A full charged battery will measure 12.6 volts. Did you find the reason for the excessive current draw?

The battery voltage should remain above 9.6 while cranking, not 11 as previously stated. Few batteries stay that high. You are puling a huge load.
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Had a similar problem. Checked everything 3 times. It turned out to be bad jumper cables.
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As teenagers, all we had were the cheap aluminum ones. Now, I have some I could weld a bridge with.
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