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Old 05-10-2016, 01:17 PM   #29
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I was kind of planning to just lift the body using jacks and cross beams and then drive the frame out.
If you have the space to do it, I think this is the best way.
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Since I have no idea how much the body weighs, I don't know if the backhoe can lift it or not. At full reach it lifts half a ton. The front bucket lifts two tons, but doesn't go high enough for lifting the body from above.

My initial thought on the A/C units was to leave them until I got the body off and then load them into the bucket. But now I think I will lift them off with the hoe instead.

Do I lift from above or below? I was kind of planning to just lift the body using jacks and cross beams and then drive the frame out. But lifting off with a big machine is of course also an option. A third option is to take it apart, removing it in pieces with the roof first, then the side walls and finally the floor.

I'll have some time to think about it while I remove the windows I guess.
I like the idea of jacking the body up and pulling the frame out from under.

Houses are moved this way, bottle jacks and cribbing blocks, a little at a time, very safe, (I picked a garage up this way and put a foundation under it and lowered it back down, worked great, did it by myself) if you do not have access to a bigger machine I would go that way.
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We raised a class C body off the van frame and pulled the cab and frame out from under the body. If you crib it up and pull the frame out from underneath, I woul]d just leave the windows and A/C units in, but you have to be careful not to twist the body as you are jacking it up.
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Yesterday I got the backhoe fixed, so this evening I was back at on the Elandan. The fuel tank is now out since it was blocking getting at the chassis 12v wiring and overall was simply just in the way when working underneath to separate the body from the frame.

It turns out my fuel gauge was way off. It showed the tank to be empty when I last had it running, but it turned out there was still almost 30 gallons in the tank. The wires to the sender were corroded as were the wires to the fuel pump. One more thing to add to the list.
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Pulled all of the chassis wiring of the Elandan this evening. For all of you who have ever wanted to see a complete motorhome chassis wiring harness, here it is. This does not include the inside or the dash wiring, though. That's another pile of wires.

The really fun part is that the Elandan is wired using green and purple wires. All of the wires had silkscreening on the them once upon a time to identify which wire was which. Now most of that is gone, and only the purple as positive and green as negative remain.
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The two AC units also came off this evening. They are heavy, old, 110v, and they don't work when you want them to. After looking at various removal methods on the net using various ingenious methods to break the seals, I have to say lifting them down with the backhoe was definitely easy. I just wrapped a rope around the compressor and the backhoe lifted the AC breaking the seal. No damage to the aluminum roof.
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Pulled all of the chassis wiring of the Elandan this evening. For all of you who have ever wanted to see a complete motorhome chassis wiring harness, here it is. This does not include the inside or the dash wiring, though. That's another pile of wires.

The really fun part is that the Elandan is wired using green and purple wires. All of the wires had silkscreening on the them once upon a time to identify which wire was which. Now most of that is gone, and only the purple as positive and green as negative remain.
and you will know how to put all that back in HOW??
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and you will know how to put all that back in HOW??
The simple answer is I'm not. The wiring harness is pretty badly corroded in the ends and by nicks and cuts where it has been chafed over the years. Seeing the wiring harness out explains all of the little but annoying electrical gremlins it had.

I haven't decided how I am going to rewire it, but one thought is making the whole vehicle computer controlled. A hobby of mine is playing with microcontrollers and controller area networks. Another thought is to rewire it according to the original wiring diagram using colored wire.

Whichever way I go, the pile of corroded wire that is gracing my driveway won't be going back in.
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and you will know how to put all that back in HOW??
You would likely be amazed at how much wiring is installed within a house as well. Hundreds and hundreds of feet of it - all able to be quickly installed by a pro.

This is pretty much the same. Just another step required in a project on the scale of this one. Not that difficult if you understand it - but no argument that's it will be a tedious time consuming part of it. One of those parts that will require hours and hours of hard work, with little progress showing for it.

Awesome project. AC removal proving this project has the right tools available! Best of luck!
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The simple answer is I'm not. The wiring harness is pretty badly corroded in the ends and by nicks and cuts where it has been chafed over the years. Seeing the wiring harness out explains all of the little but annoying electrical gremlins it had.

I haven't decided how I am going to rewire it, but one thought is making the whole vehicle computer controlled. A hobby of mine is playing with microcontrollers and controller area networks. Another thought is to rewire it according to the original wiring diagram using colored wire.

Whichever way I go, the pile of corroded wire that is gracing my driveway won't be going back in.
As tempted as you might be to use your hobby to control the electrical systems on your Motor Home, I would remind you of the KISS theory.

When driven the systems are subjected to every stress (heat, cold, humidity, water, shaking) you can imagine.

My suggestion is use you current harness as a guide to how many wires, and gauges you will need go to a store and buy as many rolls of different colored wire you can and make your own new harness.

You can add stripping to the wire by unrolling the wire and streaking between to posts and using these pens. Letting the paint dry and rolling the wire back up.




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