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01-08-2016, 07:27 AM
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Cedar Park, Tx.
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As has been said..there is nothing at all wrong with the engine. Replace the modulator valve and go on down the road.
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01-08-2016, 08:33 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: anywhere U.S.A, Currently back home in Thailand!
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Nickb and Bobby have hit the nail on the head! Listen to them, and not to the shop that is trying to rip you off! A name of that shop would help the rest of this forum know not to ever stop there! Scoundrel's!!! Rail!
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01-08-2016, 08:47 AM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club Retired Fire Service RVer's
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X2 on listening to Bobby and Nickb, they are giving you sound advise. A small score in the cylinder wall is not unusual( it is usually just a very fine scratch), it is caused by a sharp edge on one of the rings. The oily plug would also come from the defective modulator. The crack in the bellhousing may or may not have been caused by the transmission shop, Check the motor mounts to see if you have a broken engine motor mount, the twisting can cause the bellhousing to crack.
Frank
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01-08-2016, 12:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Morris, IL.
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Faulty valve guide seals that i had blew a puff of "blue" smoke when i fired it up after sitting a bit
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01-08-2016, 12:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Sierra Vista AZ for now...
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Unless you have a catalytic converter expect to see a puff of smoke when starting off from a stop, such as at a stoplight. When you're stopped the high vacuum pressure in your intake manifold sucks oil down your valve guide past your failed valve seals. When you start off after the light changes all that oil's pulled into your combustion chamber and burned along with your gas/air mixture causing a puff of smoke at your exhaust pipe. However, if you have a cat it'll be burned up in the cat.
When you get home have someone follow you in a car, they'll see that smoke puff starting out from every stop.
Steve
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01-08-2016, 02:52 PM
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#20
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Ok update I did check the modulator an bam fluid in the line and the brand new modulater is leakin it into cly 6 and 8 onthe intake manifold .. just almost took the head apart glad I did not get far into that .. on my way to exhange the modulater an oil change fluids since I drained every thing already !
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01-08-2016, 03:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bossier City,Louisiana
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Lots of shops will tell a person with an old car ,truck ,motorhome an outrageous price to make repairs in hope that they will go else where , nice way to tell you they don't want to work on it. Has happened to me and I bet it just happened to you, that's the price we pay for having to drive something old,no one wants us in their rv park or garage if our stuff is over 10 yrs old .Hope you get that baby going 84 HR was a well built motorhome .
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01-08-2016, 03:49 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
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To make it worse this shop would have claimed bad replacement motor and charged you to do it TWICE!
There are two basic types of shops today considering workers not of the generation that serviced non EFI engines.
Those who know what they are doing and will do the work correctly for a good price as they know what they are doing and those who could not pick a quadrajet out of a lineup of one and only can do what the code reader shows.
Problem is a lot more of the second who act like the first.
They take your money and throw parts at it until maybe it works or you give up but need to pay the bill for their wrong guesses.
Had a smog cert back in the day and it is fun to observe some service folks...Ford dealer tried to convince my mom that she needed tires and was doing lots of arm twisting.
She stated only Costco provides her tires due to their service and price regardless of what ford tries to pitch, then tires suddenly good and not needing replacement...
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01-08-2016, 04:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Sierra Vista AZ for now...
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Whenever I take my car in for its annual safety/environmental inspection I tell the shop up front that while they'll get my sincere thanks for locating any problems, I'll be doing the repairs myself. Even then I had one shop try to talk me into an expensive power steering repair. When I checked it myself I found the problem was a leaking oil pressure sending unit on the motor that was dripping motor oil onto the power steering rack. I'm a lucky guy to be able to do my own repairs!
Steve
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01-08-2016, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Morris, IL.
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I sure would give that shop a piece of my mind if I had some to spare just terrible dishonesty these days, all for more money
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01-08-2016, 05:10 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Island Park , NY
Posts: 629
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Wasn't that easy checking that modulator line , and yes the line hooks up to the manifold right above the intake ports at cylinders 6 and 8 so they would get the bulk of the tranny fluid. Just try to remember that not all is as it seems when you have a shop work on your vehicle, and try to learn to diagnose problems as they come . You'll have a lot more fun that way! Good Luck , Bobby
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01-08-2016, 05:55 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Island Park , NY
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I got lazy a few years ago as I was very busy with my glass shop, I let a guy I kinda trusted work on the Dakota pickup as it would go 100 mph straight and making right turns , but stall out making left turns!!!!!!!??????????? He changed damn near everything , fuel pump , filters, distributor everything but what I suggested to him, I saw some people had trouble with the 2 oxygen sensors on that model. Well $1600.00 and having him open every harness on the engine and body , it had to be towed again! Now he wanted to put oxygen sensors in , told him to forget it , you couldn't figure it out with all you SnapOn electronic crap and 1 1/2 months time , skip it! Went home and changed both sensors and had no more problem! I also let him do a oil change on my old Mercedes TD diesel wagon, brought him the filters and told him I only ran Rotella 15-40 in it , he said fine , went to pick it up and started it up , it sounded like he threw marbles in it, he din't put rotella in it he put some Cam2 10-30 in it , took it home and drained it and put the Rotella in and it was fine. Then he tried to hit me with an additional bill for $646.00 after the fact, told him that wasn't happening! Learn what you can do and find someone you trust , but ask lots of questions even to the point of being annoying, LOL! Bobby
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01-08-2016, 08:13 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,031
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In 2002 I traded in a 83 HR 454 with 100K miles. The dealer wanted a pressure check before they would give the offer to me on their trade in price.
The check showed 150# on all cylinders and the dealer was very happy.
And I have been happy ever since with my present MH.
OH!! I forgot to mention I put some of that thick honey stuff in the engine before I drove the 100 miles to their shop for the test.
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01-10-2016, 08:21 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Southern NM
Posts: 2,514
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Waiting on OP for an update, nice to know there are people here that know a thing or two.
Hats off to Bobby and Nickb
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