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Old 09-13-2014, 09:10 PM   #1
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Changing over to LED lights is something that I am considering. I got my RV about a month ago, during this time I had made a few visits to my local RV dealer. I noticed that they are selling the same exact interior lights that I have except that they have LED bulbs installed.

I looked online and saw there are many brands to choose from with with a big difference in price. Is there really a difference between them? Do some last longer than others? Is there a difference in quality ?
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Changing over to LED lights is something that I am considering. I got my RV about a month ago, during this time I had made a few visits to my local RV dealer. I noticed that they are selling the same exact interior lights that I have except that they have LED bulbs installed.

I looked online and saw there are many brands to choose from with with a big difference in price. Is there really a difference between them? Do some last longer than others? Is there a difference in quality ?

Yes there frequently is a difference in quality. Some like to play the "game" of roulette by ordering lots of different ones through EBay or Amazon (which usually are shipped directly from China). Some work well, some are too dim, some are too blue tinted, some burn out easily, some give off radio interference, etc, etc.

It's a game to see if they can eventually find all the right bulbs, and only spend $5 doing it -lol

I have nothing against this approach..... Except some people would rather spend their time fishing, or hiking, or ??? Rather than constantly waiting for the "new" batch to arrive, and then ordering again when those didn't work out.

Check out these links..... These companies have already spent time researching what works best in an RV environment.

http://m4products.com

http://cabinbright.com
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:33 PM   #3
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I will check them out now.

I did notice on Ebay there were some from china. I certainly don't mean any disrespect to the Chinese however, I have had some very poor luck with products which came from there. If it wasn't the shipping and transit times, it was quality.

Thank you for your time !
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Here is a link to a similar thread on the same topic....

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Old 09-13-2014, 09:40 PM   #5
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Looks like some people think it doesn't matter what brand... others think it does matter..

I hate to waste $. But Id rather just do it once and be done.
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well, Im certainly not an expert. But, I noticed that there is a bulb 1141 and the LED are attached to the base, So when the light is on.. 4 bulbs are shining up, 4 to the left, 4 to the right and 4 down.. For the lights above the walk way ?

the other type is a small circuit board with the LEDs shining down ( so all the bulbs will be shing down not in every direction) with wiring that goes to the base...Over the table ?

Any suggestions ?

Maybe Ill just keep it simple and get them all the same... My main reason for LED converstion is to conserve the Batt when boondocking..
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The things to consider in buying LED lights is brightness, color, and current limiting resistors. Color is important, humans have used fire and colors towards the red and orange end of the visible spectrum for a million years. This chart gives idea of the temperature, measured in kelvin degrees. Don't buy LEDs only by 'warm white' or 'bright white,' those labels are very 'broadly' interpreted.


Brightness is another factor to consider. I check the bulbs in my fixtures, look up the incandescent bulbs' brightness in lumens, then look for LED replacements with similar lumen output. Again, don't rely on labels of 'bright' or 'high intensity,' they are open to interpretation. Also with brightness comes angle of light distribution. In overhead fixtures, I look for LED arrays on a flat panel that all shine down. LEDs on 'bulblike' arrays might be fine for reflector sockets like a tail light, but an overhead needs to shine down.

Resistors are needed in LED lights, without them LEDs will draw more current than thery are rated for and burn out. I've bought LEDs from China, I think most originate there regardless of where you buy them. I usually buy one, test it out, then purchase more or move on to another supplier if I don't like it. Price has little to do with quality, it's more to do with # of distributers in the chain and marketing costs.
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Here is another great thread, The OP does a great job.

Inexpensive Fluorescent to LED Upgrade
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First: You can usually replace the bulbs with LED assemblies no problem.

Now: You ask about differencs.. The first box of LED lamps I bought cost me like 80 bucks,, Lasted a short time, (Well one of them still works) gave off a very blue light (Also Dim) i will never deal with them again.

I have picked up some Eco-Light brand LED disc shaped devices from assorted RV dealers (About 19 bucks a pop) and they are fantastic COOL WHITE is very bright white.. Somewhere between 1141 and 1156 but a fraction of the power.. Many good things to say but for the price.

I recently got a bunch of Warm White, these are yellower (Closer to 1141 running on battery power than 1156 on shore) but still plenty bright, a 10 pack was like 30 bucks.
10x Warm White 1156 BA15S 18 SMD 5050 Turn Signal Backup Reverse LED Light Bulbs | eBay

These are 1141 style (Bayonet base single contact) I would buy these again, though I prefer Cool White or Natural White/
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I bought several lights from diffewrent sources but wanted more so bought the square chip lights off E-Bay. They come with adapters to install in the bulb sockets. They haave double sided tape on the back but with the inside of my original lights being domed they did not stick well. I just used bath silicone one the back and used masking tape to keep them in place until the silicone set.
These have been working out very well and allow use to boondock longer without running the generator.
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AFAIC, there is absolutely no reason to pay 5X more than you have to for for LEDs. Here's what I did:
My experience with LEDs (warning: long, but lots of info & pics)

I believe I had only a single bulb that I did not use (an amber one for the porchlight fixture that was woefully dim), and after a year of FHU & boondocking, 115 degree heat and 40 degree cold; not a single bulb nor even a single LED has failed. A grand total of 28 different bulbs were replaced, inside & out, all for about $125. I have significantly more light, at 1/5 the current, no appreciable heat, and a much better "color" than the old yellow incandescents. All from Amazon & eBay, some from China (about 2.5 weeks average), some from US (3-5 days average). When I see the exact same bulbs at the RV store for $20+ that I paid less than $4 for, I just shake my head.
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