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Old 06-02-2013, 05:43 PM   #1
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My New (old) 1977 Vogue Class C

I've just purchased a 1977 Vogue Class C on a Dodge F-40 (440 engine).
My RV is about 23 ' long. From lurking about in various forums and blogs I've learned that Vogue made high end luxury RV's and that each one was custom made. They were bought out by another Coach company in the early nineties. It seems as if most of them were longer or even class A motorhomes. I haven't found too much discussion about class C's.
The particular model I am about to buy has original paperwork including manuals for all the appliances. The only thing I'm missing is a manual for the actual coach itself, for things like how to drain, fill check levels, batteries, control panels etc.
I'm preparing to full-time and I hope to put some miles on it and get across country once or twice! I'm optimistic since every appliance works, the seller bought it with a rebuilt engine which had 10000 miles on it, put almost no miles on it himself and fixed all the safety stuff like bearings bushings ball-joints, brakes etc.
The whole thing cost me $3600, so I expect some repair adventures. I hope to develop some sorely needed repair and maintenance skills or at least to be able to determine and articulate problems to the right people. That's why I'm here. Anyone who is interested in sharing their experiences and/or expertise or has other useful tips for a first-time-"full-timer" reply to this thread or PM please. Any way to find an old manual or a set of generic instructions that can be applied to RVs of my type?
If there are some mid-seventies Class C Vogue owners around, I'd love to share info!
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Sorry nobody else has answered you... I'll take a shot, although I know nothing about a Vogue RV... I do know a little about Mopars... Is there something specific we can help with ? How about posting some pictures of your new rig ??
Since you said you are going to full-time and travel the country, my first concern would be the Age of the tires,,, not the tread depth. Then on to any other rubber part, like belts and hoses... Things like that wear out over time, not really miles. That includes water pump seals (engine) . Sometimes just having a vehicle sit unused is worse than putting 100K miles on it. Does it have a generator?
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Old 06-07-2013, 11:45 AM   #3
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Good for you another rescue. Yes are there any pictures? I rescued this one last year she only has 48,000 and 250hrs on the gennie.
I'm not a Mopar guy either but ask away someone will help you I hope or direct you to a web site.
As for the brochures just try goggling the make and model and that might work. On one of these forms there is a list to get them but I am not sure which one.
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Make sure you keep the roof sealed with dicor I have two 70s vogues since an orphaned one found me. Not too many of those vogue class c's out there. Mine are both Class a. search yahoo groups for vintage vogues

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77 Class C Dodge Vogue

Thank you all for your interest and help! First off, I jumped the gun when I said I had purchased it. I am waiting for it to pass smog test (CA) before I buy. Nonetheless, I feel pretty confident that eventually I will own it. The previous owner is a mechanic who prioritized safety, including tires, bearings, brakes, bushings and so on. The engine runs great and I suspect the smog is just an issue of driving it around. Unfortunately I am going to have to wait another week as I'm leaving to go play in the World Series of Poker Senior event.

You have to understand that I am a total newbie at this and am relying on the kindness of strangers in forums such as these to keep me afloat! I do expect that I will be making some repairs and even paying too much for someone else to do it, but I am hoping to develop more competence in an area in my life which is sorely lacking --- not the main purpose of the journey however, and if I can keep repairs under what I would pay for rent, plus auto expenses in another vehicle, I'm OK..

I'm going to fire off some newbie questions and I hope I won't embarrass myself so much so as to get the silent treatment!

First, I have an owners' manual that says "for dodge trucks models 100-400" Looking through the paperwork (cant believe how much original stuff was saved!) Something said "chassis type: F - 40. The ad said "Dodge Sportster '77 Vogue. The floor plan certainly looks similar to class C Sportsters. I know the engine is a V8, 440. I don't even know what I'm supposed to put down for "Make" and "Model" ! What kind of vehicle do I have??

I'm also curious if Anyone in this group has seen a class C Vogue? I have seen a handful of class A's but I haven't found a single class C mentioned on forums or for sale.

I do have a generator (needs to be grounded to operate from the inside)
the tires have not been sitting and have good tread.

Thank you all for the tips on good stuff to keep on hand and for your interest!

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Make and model will be whatever the title or registration says, but it is a Dodge chassis.
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Old 06-13-2013, 10:54 PM   #7
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Yes I have seen a Vogue class C on Craigslist within the past 6 months. My Little 26' Class A is on San Diego CL right now if you want to see pics. 1979 26' Vogue motorhome
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That is a great looking little rig!! How did it do on smog? Is it yours now?
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Yes! I got it. It only cost me 3500 and it has a few problems but I've had a blast full timing so far and hope to have time to update soon. Thank you all for your interest and support!
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Yes! I got it. It only cost me 3500 and it has a few problems but I've had a blast full timing so far and hope to have time to update soon. Thank you all for your interest and support!
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the Dodge class c is based on the B-series van chassis. I have found help at dodgetalk.com

Dodge B-Series Vans 1971 - 2003 - DodgeTalk : Dodge Car Forums, Dodge Truck Forums and Ram Forums
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Very cool! Congratulations on becoming the owner of your "new to you" rig!

Best of luck with it. Let us know how you get on as you become more familiar with it and start enjoying the heck out of it!
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #14
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My New Old Vogue update.

Here's a list of ailments of my poor Beast of Burden.

Plumbing

Toilet doesn't hold water. It's equipped with a pair of foot pedals. Depressing just the smaller of the two is supposed to fill the water without it draining but it drains almost immediately. The little flap doesn't close all the way. This isn't such a big deal for me since I only do #1 so there's not much odor, but still ...

Much worse and needing immediate attention is a leak or two coming from what seems to be pipes coming out of the holding tank, The tank has been drained and is connected to the sewage at the rv park I'm staying at, but when you flush the toilet, after a delayed reaction water slowly drips underneath. The floor of the bathroom is also very wet but I can't tell where the leak is coming from. Anyway most of the water coming out of the toilet seems to collect some where and then slowly seep through the bottom of my RV. I called the recommended local mechanic and we will talk tomorrow.

Air Conditioning

Then there's the air conditioner. It actually was working for the first couple of weeks that I had it. two weeks of 100 degrees plus temperatures put their toll on it though and now it blows the circuit when you try to use the compressor. The fan and open windows provide decent ventilation and are completely adequate in the evenings and I spend the super hot times either in the casino or the rv parks' club house. Still AC would be nice but alas being able to pee without dressing up and hiking to the nearest facility while my bladder is about to explode. We will see what happens tomorrow. The chances of AC in August aren't looking good right now....

Generator

The generator seems to work but the last time I tried it I was at a camp ground and the fuel smell (runs on reg gas from the main gas tank) was unbearable for me and my camping neighbors. I had previously used it and it
didn't seem to be so pungent. It also is getting harder and harder to start.

I have not bothered to figure out how or if the refrigerator stove and oven work yet as I eat my meals at the casino and at the little stand here at the rv park. I tried to figure out the hot water and to see if the refrigerator would work on electric power. but I couldn't get the fridge to work after following the instructions and turning the knob and was afraid to light the pilot for the water heater. Again I haven't had a need for the shower, as I have had access to showers everywhere I have gone.

Apparently while driving, the engine heats up a small tank of water. I guess this means that after a couple hour trip, I could stop at a rest area and have some hot water to wash up with. As far as I can figure out, I shouldn't have to do anything besides turn on the pump and open the hot water faucet, so that's an experiment I'll have to try soon.

I'm bumming slightly about all these problems, but overall I have been enjoying my new life style, having found several nice places to stay either free or inexpensively and my rig runs great (not counting fuel mileage).

It's comfortable to sleep and sit in, as long as it's not super hot out, gets me from point A to point B, and allows me to save on rent. I knew repairs and upkeep costs were going to be high and am still OK with the trade off of reduced rent and being able to be flexible locationwise.

So that's my update. As you can see my Motel 6 on wheels has its share of problems, but no buyers remorse yet. We'll have to see how I feel after I find out the repair costs for for the holding tank, but for now still no buyers remorse.

Thank you all for your interest and help. If anyone has any suggestions I'd naturally love to hear them.
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