Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > Vintage RV's
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-27-2015, 07:23 PM   #323
Senior Member
 
ronspradley's Avatar


 
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,786
Looking good. So what is the plan, everyone involved gets to sign the plywood side for posterity?

ronspradley
__________________
'95 Monaco Windsor DP 32' Cummins 5.9
Toads '96 Tracker 4x4, '06 Honda CRV AWD
Life's too short to drink diet soda.
ronspradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 09-30-2015, 11:37 AM   #324
Senior Member
 
Piker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,707
Just a little concerned... the glue doesn't seem to be as tough as I had anticipated. I took my circular saw and cut a corner off of the panel to see how the glue was drying and with some effort I was able to separate the aluminum from the wood... it was still a little tacky.

Bender's, who makes the adhesive, have been pretty helpful answering my questions and such. They think perhaps i stuck the parts together a little too soon before enough of the solvent had flashed off. Their advice was to leave the panel untouched and give it more time to dry. I hope more time is all that is needed to yield better results. It has been cool and rainy for the last 3 days too... which probably doesn't help.

In the meantime... I've stacked some cement blocks up on top of the plywood as it's trying to bow up a bit with all the humidity... and probably the solvent coming out of the glue. I am a little worried about the plywood seams... i don't think it will take much to put a crease in the aluminum if the panel is handled incorrectly...

so for now... just trying to hurry up and wait. Worst case I guess is the glue doesn't hold at all, and I end up with a million rivets in the side wall...

-cheers
__________________
1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE
6BT Cummins -Rebuild Thread Here-
-Exterior Renovation Thread Here-
Piker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 12:23 PM   #325
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Snowbird - Waterford Mi and Citrus Springs Fl.
Posts: 3,609
Contact cement doesn't harden like epoxy or even Elmer's Glue. There's going to be quite a bit of give to it for quite some time - years?

We waited to join the halves until it flashed to the point it didn't come off on our fingers when touched. When the 2 surfaces were mated, that was it.
__________________
1997 37' HR Endeavor, 275hp Cat, Freightliner
03 CR-V Blue Ox, Ready Brake
ahicks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 01:06 PM   #326
Senior Member
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Freightliner Owners Club
Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: FORT WORTH, TEXAS
Posts: 2,744
I think you are going to be ok. I like the idea of marking/cutting all your openings/penetrations before. This will give you more hand holds.
I would leave them undersize. Perhaps a couple of inches or more to give room incase it isn't exactly in the same place as the old ones. You can then trim them to final size after it is installed.
Bill
__________________
2008 Newmar Mountain Aire
450 HP Cummins ISM 4000MH Allison Trans.
Towing a 2014 Honda CRV with a Blue Ox tow bar.
WILDEBILL308 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 03:53 PM   #327
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,654
Get some long 2 X 4 or 6 and large c clamps so you can clamp the long boards both front and back to make it stiffer to lift.

The c clamps are now your lifting attachment points and with you being inside lots of small pullys overhead with rope will allow easy controlled lift and hold in place.
__________________
Tony & Lori
1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
TQ60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 06:07 PM   #328
Senior Member
 
Piker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,707
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahicks View Post
We waited to join the halves until it flashed to the point it didn't come off on our fingers when touched. When the 2 surfaces were mated, that was it.
That's exactly how we did it... I think our timing had to have been "close."

I cut another small piece off of the edge of the panel tonight. It seems like the glue might be holding a little better each day? Not sure if that's true or if it's just what I want to believe. Actually, the piece I tried to disassemble tonight actually was stuck together pretty good...

I went a head and rolled it again. Probably not necessary, but figured it couldn't hurt.

As far as lifting the panel into place... looks like it's probably just going to be me and the wife again. I'm drilling some 1.5" holes in the areas that will eventually get cut out so I can put ratchet strap hooks in them. I'll use the holes to lift. I will do something similar to what TQ60 said, and clamp some 2x's or something across the joints to keep them from flexing while I move the panel from horizontal to vertical. I won't be able to leave the 2x's and clamps on when I place the panel into position though.

That's the plan anyways... I'll see what the weekend brings. If the glue seems pretty stiff by then, maybe we get the panel in place. I'm guessing I'll run into some other issues along the way that will need figured out, so it could still be another week or two.

-cheers
__________________
1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE
6BT Cummins -Rebuild Thread Here-
-Exterior Renovation Thread Here-
Piker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2015, 07:00 PM   #329
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,654
You make something to rest the bottom of the panel on next to rv at correct height.

Next lower panel so it is resting on supports.

Start be attaching bottom of panel in center but not tight as the supports are on top.

Now either press panel to hold in place to allow supports to be removed.

Now you can continue attaching.

Maybe do the total length of the bottom but only screws about a couple feet apart then do top center as lift removed then do zig -zag pattern working out towards ends.
__________________
Tony & Lori
1989 Country Coach Savannah SE
TQ60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2015, 01:55 AM   #330
Senior Member
 
guardrail53's Avatar
 
Monaco Owners Club
Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: anywhere U.S.A, Currently back home in Thailand!
Posts: 4,245
You are getting some good advice, Piker!! You got this!! Rail!
__________________
Retired, and "Always on Holiday!"
1996 Monaco Windsor 38PB, "Mona" 275 HP., 8.3 Cummins, 3060 Allison 6 speed, 2001 PT Cruiser, "Bailey"
guardrail53 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2015, 01:28 PM   #331
Senior Member
 
Piker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,707
The test sample today that I pulled apart required the use of a screwdriver to get the aluminum separated. Looks like the adhesive really does get stronger every day.

This makes me feel quite a bit better!!

-cheers
__________________
1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE
6BT Cummins -Rebuild Thread Here-
-Exterior Renovation Thread Here-
Piker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2015, 04:54 PM   #332
Senior Member
 
PushedAround's Avatar
 
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ambler, PA
Posts: 2,853
Blog Entries: 7
Maybe you should have a panel hanging party. A case of Bud and a couple of racks of ribs should bring them in like flies!
__________________
Larry & Cheryl Oscar, Louie, Ranger & Henry (our Springers)
PushedAround is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2015, 07:09 PM   #333
Senior Member
 
Piker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,707
Pics of Today's Progress:

















__________________
1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE
6BT Cummins -Rebuild Thread Here-
-Exterior Renovation Thread Here-
Piker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2015, 07:30 PM   #334
Senior Member
 
DieselTech39's Avatar
 
Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Ham Lake, MN
Posts: 3,038
Lookin' good Piker!! You got this!!
__________________
Have a wonderful day!
Ken (RVM 87)
FT DP Wanna B The journey is the destination!
Retired & perfecting procrastination!
DieselTech39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2015, 07:54 PM   #335
Senior Member
 
Piker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,707
Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselTech39 View Post
Lookin' good Piker!! You got this!!
Thanks man...

It went pretty well today... as usual it wasn't perfect, but it went well enough. The good news is, I didn't scrap the panel... and the glue seems to be holding ridiculously well.

I did, however, get some flex in the aluminum at the plywood joints. I figured this was going to happen, but had hoped it wouldn't. All in all, the flex is not that bad, but it did leave a little bit of a witness line at each seam. The original panels had the same thing, so I'm not going to be too hard on myself about it. There is a stud just to the side of each seam... theoretically, I could rivet up those studs and it might make the joint a little less noticeable... but it's really not too bad...

Something else we encountered, was that we weren't able to flex the panel enough to get the end of it underneath the fiberglass end caps at the front and back of the RV. I had to cut the panel top to bottom where it goes over the entry door. The panel was just too weak at the plywood joints to try and bow it out to sneak the ends underneath. This doesn't bode well for doing the other side of the RV without a vertical seam somewhere in the lower panel. I'm trying to think of something I can add to the driver's side of the RV that would break up the siding like the door does on the passenger side.

At this point, I guess I'm done for the year. The weather is too cold to spray any adhesive so I can't reallly build any more panels... besides, I'm pooped from working so much overtime, and also out of funds for now. Now that I know this can be done, I'll try to save up over the winter for the rest of the materials to finish up in the spring... and probably into next summer... who knows... maybe longer. It's a big project... time wise and $$ too.

At this point, I'm not sure I really want to tackle the other side... if I was going to do it though, the winter would be a great time to get it torn apart and prepped for new panels. It's just soooo much work... and I just really want to go camping... If I do tear it apart this winter, I might regret it come spring if I don't have the money to finish...

anyways... it's all good. For now, I'll just sit back for a bit and see what transpires over the next few months.

all for now...

-cheers
__________________
1994 Holiday Rambler Endeavor LE
6BT Cummins -Rebuild Thread Here-
-Exterior Renovation Thread Here-
Piker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2015, 08:44 PM   #336
Senior Member
 
ronspradley's Avatar


 
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,786
Great job. And I am with you. Rest. Reflect. Camp in the driveway. You have earned it. And finish the curb side, and rest again. Camp some more in the driveway. This is not a race to see who finishes first. Get the curb side to your liking and rest a spell. If you decide at some time to tackle the driver side, then it also will be done. If not, it will be your decision, and it will be the right one for you. Keep on keeping on.

ronspradley
__________________
'95 Monaco Windsor DP 32' Cummins 5.9
Toads '96 Tracker 4x4, '06 Honda CRV AWD
Life's too short to drink diet soda.
ronspradley is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.