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Old 02-22-2013, 01:27 PM   #1
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newbie with question( no seat belts)?

I just got this 73 winnebago brave..from a Trade on Craigslist.
I traded my 87 Caddy. straight across for it.
but my question is...why isnt there any seat belts in it? captain and passenger..no seatbelts. not even a lap belt. I diddn't even see a spot that showed they was taken off..
the guy i got it from couldnt tell me or diddnt know.
So i thought i would ask on here. weird or common???

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Old 02-22-2013, 01:41 PM   #2
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My brother's first car (in the late 80s) was a 1972 Dodge Dart that didn't have any seat belts either. Our mom made him put lap belts in it since that's all that could be retrofitted in easily or something.

My 78 Dodge Xplorer has/had only lap belts despite there being 3 point seat belts in these vans in the late 70s. In fact, there is a threaded hole in the body up high for the bolt for the shoulder part. I got a 3 point seat belt assembly from a newer Dodge van and put it in. I had to drill through the floor and put a bracket for the retracting part on the left side of the drivers seat. The right side connecter I bolted to the seat (it has rotating pedestal bases, not OEM dodge bases). I used as big of a bolt as I could, a lock nut and a big, thick washer underneith so it won't stress the somewhat thin sheet metal floor. It's very strong and secure. The shoulder strap fit OEM style with the matching bolt to fit the threads I mentioned.

I need to put one on the passenger side in case I ever do carry a passenger with me since it's still lap belt only. I just wrapped the lap belt around the base out of the way on the drivers side as a backup in case something happens to the 3 point seatbelt.

It had lap belts in the rear at the sofa (which i took out and put a dinette, which was an option on some of these vans so I knew one could be made to fit) and I removed them due to how they were installed.. wouldn't work for a dinette setup.

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Old 02-23-2013, 06:03 AM   #3
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Could very well be the age, or the "holes" could've been covered up by a carpet exchange. The unit would've come with lap belts bolted to the sides of the two cockpit seats. Tons of places to pick up seat belts and it won't be much of a job to install them. Or, if you have any plans to replace those two seats, lots of new chairs come with integrated seatbelts. Either way, you need to get some installed I'd imagine.
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Old 02-24-2013, 09:17 AM   #4
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thanks on the info. If i can find some seats w/belts, I'd feel safer than installing seatbelts and hoping i did it right/good enough. to work if i would have ever needed them..no one likes to think about that. but it happins and id rather be safe than sorry. ( safety first)
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:14 PM   #5
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I'm not much help and by no means any way close to knowledgeable on this stuff...But, If memory serves me right, at onetime I think the fed's excluded rec. vehicles from seat belts and some emission requirements. I can't remember where I seen it at though. I used to drive buses and converted a schoolie in to a camper, and it didn't have belts in it either and and a state trooper said it was the same deal. I was told if it didn't come with them from the builder / factory, then I did not have to put them in.
Then he said something about not being an expert on seat belts myself and companies did not want to responsible if they failed so the state of North Carolina was not going to take a chance and force the issue on vehicles that didn't come with belts, but if your vehicle had a seat belt you will get ticketed.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:03 AM   #6
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I do not believe that RVs of that age were given any exception. In most states in that period, RVs were registered as passenger cars and as such seatbelts would have been required. I suggest that you contact Winnebago. They may be able to tell you where the anchors are. Then you can do a web search for belts. I have replaced some of the belts in my coach and getting them is never the issue.

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Old 02-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #7
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The '72 Winne, that my folks bought new, had lap belts. We have had '77 Titan that had lap belts. I'd think that the floor (viewed from the underside) should have bolt holes in it showing where seat belts originally were.

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