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Old 12-05-2012, 10:46 AM   #15
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If you need help with the gen, post the model and serial number with the spec letter and I can supply a manual. From the pics, I can see you have a centrifugal/mechanical governor. It also looks like you have the lower Onan electronic ignition, possibly replacing an older points tower, with the classic Onan wasted spark design.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:51 PM   #16
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In this era, Winnebago had both batteries in the same compartment under the steps. 1 regular engine start battery and 1 coach deep cycle battery.

Coach/Chassis interconnect looks basically like this:


Coach wiring is similar to this:


For that configuration, you move the shpre power cable back and forth between campsite power and generator.

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Old 12-05-2012, 02:52 PM   #17
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If you need help with the gen, post the model and serial number with the spec letter and I can supply a manual. From the pics, I can see you have a centrifugal/mechanical governor. It also looks like you have the lower Onan electronic ignition, possibly replacing an older points tower, with the classic Onan wasted spark design.
Thanks! I'll get the numbers off it.


Got the alternator belt on. Turns out the air pump was totally frozen. It's also in the way if you try a shorter belt to bypass it. So I took it completely off. I have to say, this is the most accessible engine I have ever worked on. I love being able to sit on the ground and reach everything on the sides etc.

Now that that air pump is history, I need to figure out what other stuff I can remove to clean this engine up a little. Still have not found any sort of diagram for the carb, for now, I'm just going to plug all the vac ports and see how it goes.

Also, I went into town to get a upgraded converter/charger that local place had in stock, for 300. But in talking to them they didn't thing it was the main issue I'm having since they say that the 110 does not run though it. So I'm heading back out to trace the 110 and see whats up and if I can get the outlets to work while this thing is plugged in.
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:53 PM   #18
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In this era, Winnebago had both batteries in the same compartment under the steps. 1 regular engine start battery and 1 coach deep cycle battery.

Coach/Chassis interconnect looks basically like this:


Coach wiring is similar to this:


For that configuration, you move the shpre power cable back and forth between campsite power and generator.

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Old 12-05-2012, 04:37 PM   #19
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Ok, So to troubleshoot the issue I took the fuse box apart. I know that the main switch functions, as well as the one the AC is on. The one the A/C is a dual switch and also supports the outlets.

I tied them all together and ran them all on the main breaker... A/c Worked, still no outlets.

So, there has to be another fuse hidden in this thing someplace for the outlets.

I have both batteries disconnected, and have no 12 lights either. Would the converter normally power the 12v lights without the batteries connected?

I can hear the unit humming.
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:34 PM   #20
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Stumped. I have looked high and low but can not figure out why I would not be getting power to the outlets. The outlets don't work on either the genet or shore. I know about changing the plugs around when you switch so thats not the issue, besides like I said the roof A/C works fine on either so I know I getting power in there.

Having tied all the blacks together should have made everything hot at the same time from the same breaker, but all outlets are still dead.

I'm going to do more hunting but there has to be a kill switch or the wire itself must be broken.
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Old 12-06-2012, 02:43 PM   #21
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Need a few parts.

I'm looking for the push button heater/AC control. Mine is totally fried. If you take one off something, please not the connections and write them down as mine where already removed...

And a good Printed circuit board for the back of the cluster (I may just rewire that)


More fun today, drove the RV into town to get insurance itv on it. I knew the AC controls where fried and the previous owner had wired up a secondary switch to run the blower... Well, I reached over and hit the switch and holy crap smoke and spark and flames everywhere! Got it home after stopping that,and found that the PO had wired not only that switch, put every single accessory (fog lights, horns, dash fan, The list goes one, but I'm talking like 8-10 things here, onto 1! wire with no fuse! Also, every single fuse in the fuse panel is a 30 amp... All that is fixed now (removed everything aftermarket and all the wiring) I see now how he burned up the climate control in the first place... :(

Fortunately, No real fire. Damage was limited to the aftermarket wiring the PO had installed all over the place. Was the perfect excuse to just go ahead and remove it all.

That aside, the RV is running great after the full tuneup. Much better than the day I got it.

I've decided to just go and remove the battery/electric setup and just redo it from scratch using the diagrams. I'm not really sure what the PO was thinking in his repairs, but they are horrible at best and better to just start from a clean slate and do it right,.
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Old 12-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #22
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ngarover, Just wanted to say a word of encouragement for you. Seems like yours are many,but you are determined and will get it all straightened out. So glad to see the diagrams that another forum member was able to provide for you. Take the challenges one at a time and you will be just fine. Just think,by spring you will be camping. Welcome to the forum.
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Old 12-06-2012, 10:02 PM   #23
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Check to see if you have a GFI receptacle that has tripped. If you have one the other receptacles would be daisy chained to it. It trips and they all are shut off.

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Old 12-08-2012, 05:50 PM   #24
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Been on my Swing shift at the plant the last few days so no time to do any more work to it yet. I have the Gauge clester and heater/ac controls sitting in my house. The pcb board on the cluster is shot. So I'm going to rewire it, and might as well repaint the needles etc. I'll take some pics as I do it. (a new pcb is 70 bucks, but I think wiring it will be better in the long run) They also have my 6 buttong heater control on stock at mobility, for 159 plus shipping (new) I'll be placing the order for it on monday. I will be needing a diagram or pictures of the actual hookup since mine was already disconnected.

If possible I would also like a picture or diagram for the fuses in the main box as all mine have 30 amps in there and should be replaced with what's spose to be in there.

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if are sleeping in this unit make sure you have good battery powerd smoke and co detecters. also a propane detecter may be in order. to many things disconected would worry me.
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if are sleeping in this unit make sure you have good battery powerd smoke and co detecters. also a propane detecter may be in order. to many things disconected would worry me.

Totally agree. I already have the detectors, Smoke, CO etc. to put in the unit. Better safe than dead.

I'll have Wend and thursday to work on it again. I think I can get it usable in those 2 days for hell week that starts on Friday. Then I'm off a couple weeks for the holidays and should really get a lot of it knocked out.

For the upcoming hell week, I really only need to have the outlets working (Been looking for a GDF but have not located one) But I guess I could simpy run an extention cord into the unit for an electric heater and be good to go.

So, Replace upgrade the power center, and rewire the cluster (which should fix the fuel guage) then fill the propane and start testing the furnace...

My budget breakdown including cost was 5k. Here is how it's figuring out so far.

Unit 2800
2 front Tires 275
Power center upgrade 200
Replacement heater control 170
Tape for the roof seams 75
Caulk for windows 20
Tune up 120
Blistiens 400
2 6volt Golf cart batteries. 300 (Trogan T105)

Total 4300
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Today I picked up some wire and crimps to redo the cluster. Basically, I'm going to recreate the PCB in actual wire, and replace the PCB power dash lights with holders that can also be direct wired. I'll start that little project in the morning. For the connection, I'll be cutting the main plug to the Dash and replacing it with a disconnect-able plug. Pretty straight forward really. After I'm done with that, I'm going to run into town and pickup the new updated stuff for 6300 fuse box and power board and install it. Then I'm going to physically pull out every single 110 outlet in this RV to try and locate the issue as to why I don't have power going to any of them. I have a new GDF for both the bathroom outlet and the kitchen outlet to install. (I have looked high and low and do not see any factory installed gdf outlet installed in this unit) Maybe I'll come across one in my endeavor to trace the wiring.

My goal for the next 2 days, get power to the inside and get the fuel gauge working correctly so no more guessing as to how much is really in there. If I have time after those 2 things, I may start scrapping the old caulk etc off the roof and get it ready to re-tape and reseal.

Besides living in this RV during my work shifts each month, it looks like We are also planning to use it to take a family trip to FLA and disney world in March. Turns out you save a serious amount bringing your own camper verses getting a room for a week (The amount is actually equal to what I payed for the RV!) Crap, when did DW become so expensive? But, my kids are at the right age, (6.5 4.8 and 2) and if we wait any longer I'm afraid the "magic" would be less for my oldest.
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Old 12-12-2012, 07:40 AM   #28
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For anyone interested, these are the bulb sockets I'm replacing the originals with, also going to go ahead and put LED bulbs in. Anything to save the electric...

T10 Base Wired Socket | Miscellaneous - DIY | Super Bright LEDs

194 LED Bulb - 5 SMD LED Wide Angle Wedge Base | LED Lights for Cars | 12v | Super Bright LEDs

Unfortunately, I did not order them yet, so it will be a week before I can do this step, but it should work pretty well.
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