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Old 10-29-2015, 09:14 PM   #3669
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Hmm for the sake of debate I would put the slide on the drivers side.

Main reason is that if it is on the passenger side the slide will encroach into/onto the patio at many RV sites.

Second the weight will be on the drivers side which is the high side of the crown on the road.

I have noticed that MH with one slide mostly have it on the passenger side.
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Old 10-29-2015, 10:38 PM   #3670
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Hmm for the sake of debate I would put the slide on the drivers side.

Main reason is that if it is on the passenger side the slide will encroach into/onto the patio at many RV sites.

Second the weight will be on the drivers side which is the high side of the crown on the road.

I have noticed that MH with one slide mostly have it on the passenger side.

Excellent points and logic here!!! Particularly the crown on the road..


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Old 10-29-2015, 11:05 PM   #3671
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Hey Randy and Dar;
Took a look at your blog. Really impressive. Like the looks of the 'new' toyhauler.

See in your notes you are heading into AZ this winter. Where about will you be staying. Janet and I are in Yuma.
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Good Morning, Gordon, you guys just make it difficult, LOL . Just kidding, I value all the input I get. I had thought about if I put an awning on that it would be difficult with a slide. Okay If I switch Maybe I can run the drain hose under the frame. Have to think on this. I wasn't real concerned about the weight, that could have been offset by fuel tanks, genset ect. Stay Tuned.
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Terry,
With the bath on the driver's side, I can see the advantage of the slide on the passenger side. Since the door is at the back you can always attach the awning to the slide, some of the newer MH's with passenger slides have the awnings attached to the slides rather thn over top of them. Also since you need a space between the floor and the frame for the slide mechanism, there is your passage room for your drains, and/or water lines to go from side to side. With only 12' of length to work with, you are limited on what you can do, and I would think that it makes more sense to leave the bath and kitchen on the driver's side and put the slide on the passenger side with or without the awning, you could always use an EZ-Up if you don't want to mess with the awning.
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Good morning gang! Only two days to go before we hit the road.. Trying to get healthcare for Dar and I today and hope to finish loading the camper and getting it weighed.. Hoping for under 2k per month for Healthcare and 18k weight for the camper...

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Hey Randy and Dar;
Took a look at your blog. Really impressive. Like the looks of the 'new' toyhauler.

See in your notes you are heading into AZ this winter. Where about will you be staying. Janet and I are in Yuma.

Thanks Gordon!!! We will be in Gold Canyon at the Arizonian RV Resort.. I don't know AZ yet but maybe a GTG for some of us this winter?


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Old 10-30-2015, 08:21 AM   #3675
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Morning,
Happy Halloween,
Coffee is good (they had my brand on sale so I bought 4 can's.)
Just caught the Video's. Great work, I really liked how it goes to fast forward during BS sections.
Bumming 2nd night in the S&B. The interior is a mess with us working in it.
Question for any of you in the know,
See in the picture the corner to the right of the window, I think it looks terrible and I think its that way to allow for movement.

My ? is,
Can I place a inside corner that will cover that up and attach to just one side so there will still be movement and get rid of the gap, there are 4 of theses in the bedroom area? (not the best Pic)
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As far as I'm aware, there should be no movement of the bodywork and interior of a coach or trailer in the perfect world.. Any gaps like that were probably there for ease and speed of assembly.. But I may not be looking at the right place here..


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Okay, been thinking on this........that's always dangerous . I need to have this finished or at least useable in the late spring, how much am I going to use it as a #1 or primary camper w/out the TH in tow, my primary objective was to have an over sized area that we could use while traveling and also be able to take short trips with maybe a trailer in tow for the bikes ect. w/out the TH. So with that in mind I think I might drop the slide for now and concentrate on getting the floor/platform done so I can get it mounted before hard winter here since I'm still working outside . The builder in me always wants to do more or something that I haven't done before and at some point need to stop building and enjoy what I have done...........maybe in the future......when I don't have anything else to do . Executive decision, No slide and plumbing on the drivers side to make life easy. I normally don't take the easy way out but, . Stay Tuned!! Frank, thanks for the thoughts, would love to build the slide but think it would be better to not. Randy good luck on the health ins that can be a tough nut to crack. Tim, you don't have a slide in that area right? so I don't think there should be any movement there you should be good to put a trim piece with no problems. X2 on what Randy said
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Old 10-30-2015, 10:53 AM   #3678
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Jay, we always have fun.
I know, you're working on a build. Man I am itching to get to one. Have 3 plus the stuff on the property in OK and I'm stuck in WA.

SO just to chime in........

I'm thinking if you ever plan to do a slide it needs to be factored in now before you put in the floor as it will save you time and effort later.

Adding the slide, now or later solves the plumbing issues too as the floor will be raised and channeled for the slide mech. (HWH?)

I have to agree, slide on the drivers is better placement. Patio, potential basement storage access etc. and awning. However, your wetbay etc needs to be on the drivers side too as thats the side RV parks use for hookups should you ever find the need/desire to use one.

Long flat drain mentioned earlier. Lots of Class C and 5ers have drains exposed to the elements so having the desired slope should not be limited by keeping it all up inside the floor. 1) You likely will not be using this rig in icy weather and if you were to do so, simple heat tape wrap on that drain solves the issue.

Whenever I do this kinda stuff the planning always takes far longer than execution. I plan the ultimate, lay out the entire design, then build what I have time & $$ for NOW but build in the hidden parts (channel for the slide in the flooring and where the plumbing/electrical will go for ex) so I dont make more work and expense later. I may never do the "Planned" upgrades but always try to build with them in mind.

As with any RV plan/purchase, one needs to decide what they want, need, and how it will be used. Sometimes want far exceeds need or use. CLACers always want the best possible thing. Sometimes it's overkill as we would never really use the optional stuff.

In our search for our DP I have always insisted on Aquahot or equivalent. Why? Because I hate taking Navy showers. Fine when boondocking but not every day and I will be spending most of the year in our DP as a home. We will be on the road a lot building farms for the veterans. At the end of a work day I love my HOT shower (carting around a hot tub is not an option). Anyway, Aquahot means moving upscale, likely a TAG axle DP (which I want anyway pulling a stacker). DW keeps saying cant we live without the AH? Save some $$? I just say "Do you want to shave your legs while standing soaking wet in the shower without the warm water keeping you warm? Or do you prefer waxing so we can save some $$?

2 slides in the front is also a requirement for how we will use the DP. The bedroom I could care less. It's for sleeping not for hanging out (why do folks always want a huge master bedroom in their S&B? Bed, dresser is all you need room for and a closet big enough to meet DW's needs and still let me hang up my 10 items.)

Has this made the hunt for what we NEED without spending a fortune more difficult and time consuming? You betcha. But planning ahead on what we NEED will save us heartache and expense later. Want, need, use.

Man I'm itching to build something. May be I will add another deck on the back of the house. DW just smacked me.
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Old 10-30-2015, 11:43 AM   #3679
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I once read "A goal without a plan is just a dream." I agree with the statement. Having a plan even if it is in your head is a must before starting a project.

I am one who likes to think about things for a long time before starting to build. I find that if I write stuff down, even as a sketch helps with the thinking. I like to look for problems. If I identify the problems and solve them the build generally goes better. Not always though as sometimes the solving the problem creates it's own issues. That's when using screws works well as I just back the screws out (unless I used glue too!!).

Best part is no matter what is built it is something that can/will be used. Could it be better - of course. That is when you start on your improvement project (CLAC). LOL
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I think my biggest obstacle is the fact I have to work outdoors, and as I really don't want to build a shop big enough to work on a big rig that will be the norm. That being said if I was indoors I don't think I would hesitate, there would be all sorts of things built, after all there is 5 months before I get the TH out of storage. I am thinking of next year and wanting to travel I need to limit my projects on the vehicle I'm going to be using. Jay, I actually have a plan in my head for a slide mech. that won't raise the floor, it is part of the floor platform, would be neat to do it. Gordon, I do the same as far as thinking about something for awhile before I do it. Sometimes take longer to plan then to do.
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Good Morning, Gordon, you guys just make it difficult, LOL . Just kidding, I value all the input I get. I had thought about if I put an awning on that it would be difficult with a slide. Okay If I switch Maybe I can run the drain hose under the frame. Have to think on this. I wasn't real concerned about the weight, that could have been offset by fuel tanks, genset ect. Stay Tuned.

Terry - I may be thinking backwards here. I picture you backing the Tot'r in to the parking spot leaving the passenger side on the patio side and the drivers side on the water/sewer/power hookups in most RV parks.

If the slide is on the drivers side and the awning on the passenger side the awing would be above the patio and the slide would be away from the patio.

Unfortunately this would mean that if you had the washroom and and kitchen on the drivers side they would be on the slide. If you put the washroom and kitchen at the back as Lynne suggests then the slide would be smaller.

But you could put a slide on both sides!! Something else to consider. A shallow slide on the passenger side would let you put a large awning over it or hang a small awning on the slide itself. Without an awning on the passenger side you can put whatever awning you want. With or without a slide I would go with a 12' awning on the passenger side.

Another thought - but this is getting ridiculous!!! How about a full wall slide? Just kidding!!
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I think my biggest obstacle is the fact I have to work outdoors, and as I really don't want to build a shop big enough to work on a big rig that will be the norm. That being said if I was indoors I don't think I would hesitate, there would be all sorts of things built, after all there is 5 months before I get the TH out of storage. I am thinking of next year and wanting to travel I need to limit my projects on the vehicle I'm going to be using. Jay, I actually have a plan in my head for a slide mech. that won't raise the floor, it is part of the floor platform, would be neat to do it. Gordon, I do the same as far as thinking about something for awhile before I do it. Sometimes take longer to plan then to do.
I hear ya on weather and being outside. That said, once the shell is weather tight......... the rest is inside and that can be warm and dry. I get the no shop issue. We sold mine last year and I am limited to a 2 car garage or the driveway now.

DW gets impatient with me at times because I spend so much time thinking thing through before I start. Sometimes I disassemble things so I can see whats going on behind the facade then plan. That really drives her crazy. She just doesn't get that all that fast building afterward is because of the planning. Cant help but think things through and cover all possible contingencies beforehand. Wired that way.
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