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Old 11-07-2014, 07:15 PM   #547
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Hi Lynne, Thanks for the ideas, all are welcome for sure. We have alot of cardboard that I draw the shapes of the "stuff that we want or need in the TH, (I draw it to scale) then see if it will fit in the areas that we want, we also can actually make the item out of cardboard, and see ( we do that for depth). I also use a program on the computer that will sketch to scale. I have also made an item out of wood to see if it will work, (Cheaper then steel) time consuming sometimes, but I am very visual, I see things in my head and have to see them. (better then hearing things ).
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Old 11-08-2014, 11:08 AM   #548
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Hi Terry;
Lots of good ideas. It will be difficult to implement them all.

IMO the water heater should be as close as possible to the hot water outlets. It will save the amount of water you have to run through the tap to get hot water.

Shorter water lines mean it will be easier to set the lines so they can self drain and mean fewer drain points.

Set water lines inside, (away) from the outside walls when possible. If you end up camping in colder weather they are easier to protect against freezing.
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Hi Gordon, yes, we have to sift thru all the good ideas and see what will work for sure. Good idea with the hot water heater, we will for sure do that. Certainly if we are boondocking, we need to save as much water as possible, somewhere I saw an article on a bypass system that would direct water back to the fresh water tank until it got hot there by saving water, I need to find that again might be something I could do as I hook everything up. I'm working on the TV's sleeper area today (not a bad day so far). Trying to get everything out in order to build it back, soooo much to do . Then when it gets dark (before 5:00) I switch to the donor and continue taking it apart.
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Got most of the sleeper gutted, everything is riveted so slow going.
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Yup - same here. We had snow yesterday. Waiting for a bit until it warms a bit and then will take the tractor out and plow the snow. The cold certainly slows things down - at a minimum makes things seem longer to accomplish.
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Hi Gordon, Oooh to go from Yuma to snow what a shock . DW said to just go for it, so we are all out taking everything out of the donor that could be damaged by weather. So everything is screwed from outside in, so the outside skin has to come off, got out the 7" grinder change the blade to a cutter, cut out a square in the side, pull the insulation and unscrew everything you can see, unhook the sink, and wiring (and label). The overhead and sink cabinets all came out with minimum of work. Now for the other side.........
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I have all the cabinets except the bathroom out, after that its the wiring and plumbing. Since the donor used the walls and ceiling as the back and top of the cabinets I need to build the rest of the cabinets in the shop, and install as a unit. DW is picking out the flooring so we can install before the cabinets. Here's a couple of pics of the sink area demo and the other exterior.
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Good job Terry, it is a shame to have to tear that trailer apart, but I understand about the bad roof. It will look good in your TH though.
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Hi Frank, I agree, I hate to tear apart some of these, this was a real nice little 5th wheel, title said 4000 lbs, towed nice but the roof had gone bad ,and nobody fixed it and the floor had gone bad in several spots. I have found out the harder they come apart the better their built for sure. They certainly don't make them to come apart .
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Hi Terry,

Bare with me a minute here please, have another idea. I get these and it may be totally off kilter, but here it is.

The wall that goes into the garage will have a door in it. I am assuming in the middle? Is there a way to (on the kitchen side) to put that wall on a hinge so the garage wall can be partially collaspable? The door could be hinged on the stationary side.

The reason why, you could make a drop down, or pull out counter from your kitchen counter that would increase your counter space. If the bikes won't be in the garage all the time (would you store them outside when not driving them?) this could make an open concept for the 5th wheel while living in it.

Just an idea. You see those counters that fold in under other counter when slides are slid in. Thought maybe it could also work to slide a counter into the garage space if the wall could be hinged.

Know either way that you will come up with something. Lynne
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Sliding French door that moves to one side of the garage side. Or even make a double half wall the door moves inside the wall.
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Good Morning All, Lynne, that would be a very good idea, we had thought about putting a "pocket" door to save wall space, between the garage and living area. The door is going in the middle, maybe slide one way and hinge other side to open up . HH, we are thinking the same, DW had seen a TH that had glass doors going into the garage and really liked that feature. Ron, I'm hoping with the insulation I'm using that I only need one, At some point I want to install solar panels so want to keep as much area clear as I can. Also with it being brite white maybe reflect some heat. Gordon had also suggested installing Fantastic vents to cool at night and cooler days. Well here in upstate ny we have one more day before the "polar vortec" hits, supposed to be almost 60 degs today and 30 by thrusday. so working at getting as much out of the donor as I can.
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I have been following your post and I think you have a great skill at remodeling.
Yes Its coming your way. I took my 64 convert for the last ride and vacuumed the lawn on Sunday and today its 20-25 degrees and 3 inches of snow... Yes its coming better get that roof done...
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