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Old 09-19-2010, 03:39 PM   #1
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What would you do???? Tricky question!

I have found an axle, springs, wheels in good shape off of a 1947 spartan manor. Will fit my spartan!! The seller wants $500, not too bad of a deal!! Other option is to purchase new, and would need to move hanger brackets since today's generic springs reach no further than 29 inches. the original is 35 1/2. To have custom springs made would be ridiculously pricey. Would you spend the $500 on the original and could clean up later or , would you say to heck with it and buy all new, at around the same price, maybe a little more if you go with brakes. The original does have 6 volt brakes that could be made to work again. Remember, the axle and springs back in the 40's were much beefier than some built today!! Thought I would throw that out there!!
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I would go with the ones off of the spartan manor. You should have few installation problems. There will be some fabrication issues using new springs. My $.02

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Old 09-19-2010, 04:23 PM   #3
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Gut feeling

I am with you on this as well. My gut is telling me , go with the original!! Less issues, and with her current spot, I don't need any surprises!!
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:31 AM   #4
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Might want to take a look at the original wheel bearings on the used one you want to buy. Many wheel bearings from the '50s and before were of the round ball type, not tapered roller like we use now. Might be hard to find replacements if needed. Even a '56 Chevy used ball bearings originally.
You could get the spring dimensions you need and then go to an auto salvage yard and see if you can find springs to match.
Also your old 6 volt brake components may be difficult to find replacements for in 12 volt.
The standards from the era of the old axle are not the same as now.

If you can inspect the components on the axle you want to purchase and they are good it might be o.k. I would prefer new personally, but being a former heavy equipment mechanic and shop foreman it is no problem to retro-fit something like this for me.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:45 AM   #5
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I like the new, get the disc brakes, fab everything up now and you are done. Parts for the new stuff is easier to find if needed. People who really drive their old cars are upgrading to the newer technology. (fuel injection, disc brakes, electronic/distributorless ignition, etc.)
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This axle should be in relatively good shape, but now I am swaying towards new, especially if anything breaks!!
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Old 09-20-2010, 11:39 AM   #7
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My vote would also be to go new.
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Want safe or collectable?

If your are restoring a Model A ford you may want to be perfect original, but this is a unit that you are wanting to use and be safe.

Springs are not that expensive, and you are not the first person who has done this.

Take the measurements from the original axle, everything needed to build a new one and search the net.

There are many builders who are very hungry now, you may find existing stock on a shelf or a hungry small shop who needs some christmas spending money.

Be sure to do ALL of the homework, specify what you want, provide exact measurements as well as any manufacturer data on the existing parts and lots of photos will not hurt.
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made2care,
I think you will find overcoming the few engineering problems associated with attaching the modern axle to be less of a problem than trying to maintain the original axle, given the bearing and brake parts issues which have been cited.

"Mounting Plates" with the original dimensions of the old axle could be attached to the original attachment points, then the new axleset could be fitted to the mounting plate. This would avoid the need for drilling any additional holes in the frame.
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If you're going to show it, go with the original.

If you're going to use it, go with the modern stuff.

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I have considered this. Seems that the springs would have to be custom made, and that becomes pricey.
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Put new bushings in the old springs and use new the rest of the way.
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I have considered this. Seems that the springs would have to be custom made, and that becomes pricey.
Cheaper now than a breakdown on the highway.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:18 PM   #14
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This is true. Going with 6000# dexter axle with brakes. Should do the job!!
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