Join CruisersForum Today
Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-22-2005, 11:34 PM   #1
brad03ca is offline
Senior Member
brad03ca's Avatar


Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Port Hope,ON
Posts: 2,539
This is an interesting answer regarding the column in last weeks Toronto Star "Wheels"

Reality of trailers



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jumbo trailers can be a big pain in the rear end


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard J. Elmer, July 9

As of this Monday morning, we have received many phone calls from customers who have purchased towables with GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings) exceeding the 4,600 kg weight limitation on their Class G licence.

I would like to clarify some topics that were overlooked in Mr. Elmer's article:

The weight sticker commonly found on the outside of a trailer lists the GVWR of the trailer. Quite often, we find customers looking at these stickers to see how much a trailer weighs, and then determine if they can tow it with their current tow vehicle. The actual GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) of the trailer is inside the RV, which also lists the NCC (Net Carrying Capacity).

The GVW combined with the NCC gives the GVWR.

Most of the public do not realize the actual weight (GVW) they are towing can be thousands of pounds less than the GVWR sticker on the side of the trailer. I doubt the Ministry of Transport and the OPP are aware of this.

In his article, Mr. Elmer asked me how many towable RVs we sold in the past year that had a GVWR that exceeded the Class G limit of 4,600 kgs. While 37 per cent of them did, what wasn't mentioned was that only 8 per cent of them had a GVW actually weighing more than 4,600 kgs.

In most cases, even adding half-a-tonne for fresh water and personal items, the trailer would still weigh in under the 4,600 kgs.

The Ontario Licensing Offices do not ask the customer to produce a Class A licence when licensing towables with a GVWR over 4,600 kgs.

We provide them with the customer's Class G licence number and the Certificate of Origin of the trailer (which includes the trailer weight) and they produce an ownership and trailer plate without any mention of licence classifications.

How could the MTO ask the OPP to enforce this weight limitation, when Ontario's licensing bureau totally ignores it?

Wayfarer Insurance, which has exclusively supplied Ontarians with RV insurance for many years, has made it public policy that it will not deny an insurer or an insurer's claim based on a customer's driver's licence classification.

The Ministry of Transport needs to make the RV Trailer endorsement on your Class G licence a reality.

__________________________________________________ _______________________

This letter was written by the Sales Manager at Campkins RV in Whitby

__________________
brad03ca

2007 GMC Duramax/Allison 6 spd SLT Crew
  Reply With Quote
   
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 07-22-2005, 11:34 PM   #2
brad03ca is offline
Senior Member
brad03ca's Avatar


Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Port Hope,ON
Posts: 2,539
This is an interesting answer regarding the column in last weeks Toronto Star "Wheels"

Reality of trailers



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jumbo trailers can be a big pain in the rear end


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard J. Elmer, July 9

As of this Monday morning, we have received many phone calls from customers who have purchased towables with GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings) exceeding the 4,600 kg weight limitation on their Class G licence.

I would like to clarify some topics that were overlooked in Mr. Elmer's article:

The weight sticker commonly found on the outside of a trailer lists the GVWR of the trailer. Quite often, we find customers looking at these stickers to see how much a trailer weighs, and then determine if they can tow it with their current tow vehicle. The actual GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) of the trailer is inside the RV, which also lists the NCC (Net Carrying Capacity).

The GVW combined with the NCC gives the GVWR.

Most of the public do not realize the actual weight (GVW) they are towing can be thousands of pounds less than the GVWR sticker on the side of the trailer. I doubt the Ministry of Transport and the OPP are aware of this.

In his article, Mr. Elmer asked me how many towable RVs we sold in the past year that had a GVWR that exceeded the Class G limit of 4,600 kgs. While 37 per cent of them did, what wasn't mentioned was that only 8 per cent of them had a GVW actually weighing more than 4,600 kgs.

In most cases, even adding half-a-tonne for fresh water and personal items, the trailer would still weigh in under the 4,600 kgs.

The Ontario Licensing Offices do not ask the customer to produce a Class A licence when licensing towables with a GVWR over 4,600 kgs.

We provide them with the customer's Class G licence number and the Certificate of Origin of the trailer (which includes the trailer weight) and they produce an ownership and trailer plate without any mention of licence classifications.

How could the MTO ask the OPP to enforce this weight limitation, when Ontario's licensing bureau totally ignores it?

Wayfarer Insurance, which has exclusively supplied Ontarians with RV insurance for many years, has made it public policy that it will not deny an insurer or an insurer's claim based on a customer's driver's licence classification.

The Ministry of Transport needs to make the RV Trailer endorsement on your Class G licence a reality.

__________________________________________________ _______________________

This letter was written by the Sales Manager at Campkins RV in Whitby

__________________
brad03ca

2007 GMC Duramax/Allison 6 spd SLT Crew
  Reply With Quote
   
Old 07-23-2005, 02:52 PM   #3
The Big Kid is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Halifax(Nova Scotia) or the skies above
Posts: 199
see my rant against dealers in the "TT & 5th Wheel - General Discussion" section.

knowledge is power, know as much as you can about what you do.
__________________
06 Wilderness 2952BS

03 Ram 3500, CTD, Crew Cab, 4X4, DRW, 6 spd, pacbrake, aFe stage 1 mega cannon with Torq tube.
  Reply With Quote
   
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Winnie Read These? Belgique Winnebago Industries Owner's Forum 23 12-02-2007 12:58 PM
PLEASE READ.... MonacoMama Monaco Owner's Forum 18 08-19-2007 03:57 PM
I have read this but never listened to it. Kablewizard Just Conversation 2 11-26-2006 07:35 PM
Can't read the Dash Gdlow Workhorse Custom Chassis Motorhome Forum 14 09-13-2005 04:57 AM

Download our Mobile App






1% for the Planet
» Upcoming Rallies
No events scheduled in
the next 365 days.
» iRV2 on facebook

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:34 PM.