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07-22-2005, 10:34 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005
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This is an interesting answer regarding the column in last weeks Toronto Star "Wheels"
Reality of trailers
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Jumbo trailers can be a big pain in the rear end
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Howard J. Elmer, July 9
As of this Monday morning, we have received many phone calls from customers who have purchased towables with GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings) exceeding the 4,600 kg weight limitation on their Class G licence.
I would like to clarify some topics that were overlooked in Mr. Elmer's article:
The weight sticker commonly found on the outside of a trailer lists the GVWR of the trailer. Quite often, we find customers looking at these stickers to see how much a trailer weighs, and then determine if they can tow it with their current tow vehicle. The actual GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) of the trailer is inside the RV, which also lists the NCC (Net Carrying Capacity).
The GVW combined with the NCC gives the GVWR.
Most of the public do not realize the actual weight (GVW) they are towing can be thousands of pounds less than the GVWR sticker on the side of the trailer. I doubt the Ministry of Transport and the OPP are aware of this.
In his article, Mr. Elmer asked me how many towable RVs we sold in the past year that had a GVWR that exceeded the Class G limit of 4,600 kgs. While 37 per cent of them did, what wasn't mentioned was that only 8 per cent of them had a GVW actually weighing more than 4,600 kgs.
In most cases, even adding half-a-tonne for fresh water and personal items, the trailer would still weigh in under the 4,600 kgs.
The Ontario Licensing Offices do not ask the customer to produce a Class A licence when licensing towables with a GVWR over 4,600 kgs.
We provide them with the customer's Class G licence number and the Certificate of Origin of the trailer (which includes the trailer weight) and they produce an ownership and trailer plate without any mention of licence classifications.
How could the MTO ask the OPP to enforce this weight limitation, when Ontario's licensing bureau totally ignores it?
Wayfarer Insurance, which has exclusively supplied Ontarians with RV insurance for many years, has made it public policy that it will not deny an insurer or an insurer's claim based on a customer's driver's licence classification.
The Ministry of Transport needs to make the RV Trailer endorsement on your Class G licence a reality.
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This letter was written by the Sales Manager at Campkins RV in Whitby
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brad03ca
2007 GMC Duramax/Allison 6 spd SLT Crew
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07-22-2005, 10:34 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,525
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This is an interesting answer regarding the column in last weeks Toronto Star "Wheels"
Reality of trailers
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Jumbo trailers can be a big pain in the rear end
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Howard J. Elmer, July 9
As of this Monday morning, we have received many phone calls from customers who have purchased towables with GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Ratings) exceeding the 4,600 kg weight limitation on their Class G licence.
I would like to clarify some topics that were overlooked in Mr. Elmer's article:
The weight sticker commonly found on the outside of a trailer lists the GVWR of the trailer. Quite often, we find customers looking at these stickers to see how much a trailer weighs, and then determine if they can tow it with their current tow vehicle. The actual GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight) of the trailer is inside the RV, which also lists the NCC (Net Carrying Capacity).
The GVW combined with the NCC gives the GVWR.
Most of the public do not realize the actual weight (GVW) they are towing can be thousands of pounds less than the GVWR sticker on the side of the trailer. I doubt the Ministry of Transport and the OPP are aware of this.
In his article, Mr. Elmer asked me how many towable RVs we sold in the past year that had a GVWR that exceeded the Class G limit of 4,600 kgs. While 37 per cent of them did, what wasn't mentioned was that only 8 per cent of them had a GVW actually weighing more than 4,600 kgs.
In most cases, even adding half-a-tonne for fresh water and personal items, the trailer would still weigh in under the 4,600 kgs.
The Ontario Licensing Offices do not ask the customer to produce a Class A licence when licensing towables with a GVWR over 4,600 kgs.
We provide them with the customer's Class G licence number and the Certificate of Origin of the trailer (which includes the trailer weight) and they produce an ownership and trailer plate without any mention of licence classifications.
How could the MTO ask the OPP to enforce this weight limitation, when Ontario's licensing bureau totally ignores it?
Wayfarer Insurance, which has exclusively supplied Ontarians with RV insurance for many years, has made it public policy that it will not deny an insurer or an insurer's claim based on a customer's driver's licence classification.
The Ministry of Transport needs to make the RV Trailer endorsement on your Class G licence a reality.
__________________________________________________ _______________________
This letter was written by the Sales Manager at Campkins RV in Whitby
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brad03ca
2007 GMC Duramax/Allison 6 spd SLT Crew
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07-23-2005, 01:52 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004
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see my rant against dealers in the "TT & 5th Wheel - General Discussion" section.
knowledge is power, know as much as you can about what you do.
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03 Ram 3500, CTD, Crew Cab, 4X4, DRW, 6 spd, pacbrake, aFe stage 1 mega cannon with Torq tube.
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