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05-25-2019, 10:04 AM
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Building an RV driveway on sand
We just got stuck in our yard for the second time. We are new to the wonders of sand but now realize we need some type of driveway to get to the concrete RV pad.
We know the sand goes down over 3 feet so not possible to dig down to a more solid base.
We're aiming for best value - lowest price for best end result. Definitely need something heavy-duty because our coach is heavy.
Anyone done this? Know of anyone who has done it? Looking for ideas, suggestions, and/or starting place.
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05-25-2019, 10:22 AM
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Short of digging away the sand then filling the hole with compacted dirt, the only other solution I can see is plywood or aircraft landing mat.
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05-25-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LJowdy
Short of digging away the sand then filling the hole with compacted dirt, the only other solution I can see is plywood or aircraft landing mat.
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Thanks for the input. But wow! That makes it sound impossible. I know they put RV parks in Florida & Arizona and near beaches so it has to be possible. Just haven't figured it out yet.
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05-25-2019, 10:36 AM
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We live at the beach and a lot of access ramps use trap rock as their bases.
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05-25-2019, 10:49 AM
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What they do when building on sand is to dig down to hard pack. Read this article: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/materi...nd-103312.html
They do make mat that you lay down on the sand then pour concrete over it but the concrete will crack under weight and when the sand shifts.
Think about the Landing Mat. It's a short cut to a concrete driveway and won't cost nearly as much as trying to dig out and pour concrete. It may not look pretty but it will be functional.
Google "Landing mat for sale near me"
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05-25-2019, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyDi
We live at the beach and a lot of access ramps use trap rock as their bases.
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I appreciate the input. Will need to check on that.
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05-25-2019, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LJowdy
What they do when building on sand is to dig down to hard pack. Read this article: https://homeguides.sfgate.com/materi...nd-103312.html
They do make mat that you lay down on the sand then pour concrete over it but the concrete will crack under weight and when the sand shifts.
Think about the Landing Mat. It's a short cut to a concrete driveway and won't cost nearly as much as trying to dig out and pour concrete. It may not look pretty but it will be functional.
Google "Landing mat for sale near me"
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Thanks! That's the exact article I read before posting here. We had to have our drainfield replaced and they dug down maybe 4-5 feet and it was all sand. I don't even know how far we'd have to go for the hard pack.
Will give the landing mat some thought. We aren't looking for pretty - just don't want to get stuck again!
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05-26-2019, 06:41 PM
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Gravel ! No sand in N Georgia, but lots of clay. I might take out 4 to 6 inches of sand and them haul large (2-3 inch length) stone in and then add a layer of crusher run stone. No pea gravel, it will not compact
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05-26-2019, 06:51 PM
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I had a pad built. On sand next to our lake. No way to hard pan.
About ten inches of sand was removed. I used 8x8 treated to make an end and side line. Then back filled with whatever rock the guy had delivered. His little bucket loader compacted it well and then he added about 6 inches of recycled asphalt. It compacted well and has held up perfectly for several years. My forty footer sits fine and the jacks have never pushed through.
Weed growth has been minimal and a little spray takes care of them quickly. I believe the cost was a bit less than 2K. The project took about 6 hours.
Fortunately I had a place to dump the sand but it probably won't cost much to haul it away.
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05-26-2019, 07:02 PM
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I would check with a couple of local driveway contractors and see what they advise. They would know what materials are available locally and how to deal with your driveway to support a heavy MH.
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05-26-2019, 07:05 PM
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I am tempted to give you advice, but I don't live in Florida. I live in south central Wisconsin. We have a lot of clay soil here, but a short drive away it is deep sand. We have deep freezing you do not. These conditions and more matter a lot.
The best way to start is to contact several road/driveway contractors in your neighborhood/city/county. I always try for three or more. This step is usually free. Their advice will be far superior to mine and to others not in your area. The difficulty will come when the contractors propose different solutions and different costs.
There is usually a cheap one in the group as well as a very expensive one. Look at the proposed solutions. Do they seem plausible. Then consider the price. Ask around for which is likely to be the best. Search for expert advice on the internet. Again use multiple sources and compare advice.
I recently went through this process for a basement wall repair. In the end it was not which of several processes to use, but an alert and experienced contractor who correctly identified maple tree roots as the cause of the cracked wall.
The process needed to fix it needed to remove the roots. It cost almost double two other plans that would not have removed the roots. The outrageously expensive plan would have fixed it also, but most of it was unnecessary.
Good luck!
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05-26-2019, 07:12 PM
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I built a driveway for the new B&S we built. We have lots of clay, which is hard as a rock when dry bu when it rains it like pudding. I did some investigating and decided to put down a layer of driveway fabric before putting down crushed stone. After dozens of heavy delivery trucks during the house build the driveway has held up well and I can drive my coach on it without a problem.
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05-26-2019, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc
Gravel ! No sand in N Georgia, but lots of clay. I might take out 4 to 6 inches of sand and them haul large (2-3 inch length) stone in and then add a layer of crusher run stone. No pea gravel, it will not compact
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Thanks for suggesting that option. We were more used to clay from when we lived in PA. A sand yard is a new experience!
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05-26-2019, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YC1
I had a pad built. On sand next to our lake. No way to hard pan.
About ten inches of sand was removed. I used 8x8 treated to make an end and side line. Then back filled with whatever rock the guy had delivered. His little bucket loader compacted it well and then he added about 6 inches of recycled asphalt. It compacted well and has held up perfectly for several years. My forty footer sits fine and the jacks have never pushed through.
Weed growth has been minimal and a little spray takes care of them quickly. I believe the cost was a bit less than 2K. The project took about 6 hours.
Fortunately I had a place to dump the sand but it probably won't cost much to haul it away.
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That's just the RV pad, isn't it? Sounds like a good way to do that. Would that work for a driveway also?
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