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Old 03-16-2009, 02:46 PM   #1
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3M protector film cracking

I have a 04 Journey that has the 3M film on front that is cracking. Have anyone had this problem , are am the lucky one? How can it be removed without peeling paint.
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:12 PM   #2
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I had this done after a small fender bender.... I fellow from Diamond Shield stopped by my shop/RV barn, removed it and reinstalled new after the repairs were done. He was a pro and still peeled paint. It took the better part of 2 hours to remove it and 2+ hours to reinstall..... The small fender bender ending up cost the other guys insurance company a tad over $3,000.

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Diamond Shield and 3M Film are not the same thing ...similar products, yes, but not the same... I understand experienced installer can sometimes remove the film w/o removing the paint, but most often re-painting is required.

The 3M Film I had applied on my '03 when I bought it in July '04 has a few bad edges but otherwise is not "cracking" as far as I can see. But it isn't looking great with lots of marks/scratches in the surface, which I assume is due to my using wet dryer sheets to clean bugs off. I'll probably have the front re-done at some point ...don't know that I will repeat the "protective film" experience ...not sure it does much other than cost you money...
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I only use micro fiber cloths and Plexus plastic cleaner om my Diamond Shield. If can't get Plexus use Protect All. Bugs come off with cool water and a micro fiber cloth.
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AfChap, I believe that Winnebago used 3M.I looked in all the papers that came with the coach and found nothing. Mine is a 04. You said that you got alot of scratches, that the way mine looks. One day out of the blue it started and have not stop. I hope it will come off without taking the paint.I guess I will have to look around houston for some one to remove it. I will not put new on.
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I had a detailer put some marks in my 3M while trying to scrub bugs with a cloth. I've tried Plexus, 303 and wax, but so far, nothing seems able to remove those marks. They're not deep enough to call scratches, but enough so you can see them in certain lighting. Anyone have a solution?
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3M film has a 5 year warranty. Try contacting them. http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...Consumer/FAQs/
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Hair Dryer might help

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AfChap, I believe that Winnebago used 3M.I looked in all the papers that came with the coach and found nothing. Mine is a 04. You said that you got alot of scratches, that the way mine looks. One day out of the blue it started and have not stop. I hope it will come off without taking the paint.I guess I will have to look around houston for some one to remove it. I will not put new on.
Someone in another section of the forum said there's was removed using a hair dryer. ?
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Heat is part of the key to vinyl film removal ...hair dryer is one way to get that heat. I worked on my off and on this summer when parked with direct afternoon sun on the front --- problem is we were north rather early and I eventually ran out of summer sun before I got all the film removed. I also bought some stuff called "Vinyl Off" that is helpful in getting it off --- but it still isn't easy. I have lost some of the clearcoat in the removal process, perhaps from trying to pull too large a piece?? ...but all the clearcoat loss in on the tan colored paint and none on the two colors of maroon. I believe gravel dings through the film, or anything else that caused a crack in the clearcoat, could lead to the clearcoat peeling off with the film.

I plan to have the clearcoat repaired/redone when I get all the film off, but doubt I will put film back on.
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I have a 1999 monoco and i have a horrible looking film on the front, i was informed it is the 3m product. you can remove it with a kerosene blower heater or a steam gun. you can rent a steam gun and i havent tried the kerosene blower yet. I am not looking forward to removing it. I also read that you are supposed to replace it every year? Camping World informed us about the heater method. I would love any input, thank you!
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I watched a jobber remove some film at the Tiffin plant in Red Bay. He used an electric heat gun, warming an area at a time-then pulling the film off. One note: it must be pulled towards the area where the film was, if that makes sense. You don't want to pull it towards the direction where the film is still in place. (Not sure I can describe this correctly) Imagine pulling a decal off a windshield....pull the film in the opposite direction you'd pull that decal. That way, you don't pull the underlying paint off with the film.

And no, I've never hear of anyone recommending removal annually....makes no sense.
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I also read that you are supposed to replace it every year?
That really WOULD make your RV a money pit, eh???

Not true ... in fact, (direct quote from their website) "3M warrants that Scotchgard™ Paint Protection Film, installed after November 1, 2003, will be free of defects in materials and manufacture — including yellowing, bubbling, or cracking — for five (5) years from date of purchase."
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Use a heat gun or a good warm hair dryer on anything that has adhesive on the back, the 3M clear cover, gummed price tags, UPS labels, shipping labels. Don't burn it just heat it enough to start peeling. Works like magic.
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thank you for your info there is a lot of confusing info out there. glad i found this forum. i love my money pit and am having a great time with it. i am sure i will need more help, i have two busted hot water hose ends and am going to replace the new carpet we have dogs and white carpet isOUT! thanks again will not be putting the3m product back on the RV.
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