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Old 11-22-2011, 05:50 PM   #15
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Just one more opinion, FWIF I have been taking care of a 2-500 vehicle constuction fleet (in house shop) for over 30 yrs including GM, Ford, Allison, and ZF transmission never killed a trans yet from serviceing it. With that said there have been failures, however it was clearly evident when they where being serviced they where doomed to fail soon, burnt fluid, heavy buildup in the pan, and were pulled at that time for rebuild. In your case at 175k I would just leave it alone if it's working ok, if the fluid is burnt the damage has already been done anyway.

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Old 11-23-2011, 10:48 PM   #16
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Why whould a fluid change damage your transmission?
If you pull the stick, and it does not look like Cherry Cool-Aid, Change it!
These myths about "gunk" and "flakes" are bunk. The failure came from, (say it with me) "Lack Of Maintainence" There are stories about this all over the internet.
It's CRAP! If your trans fails after a fluid change, it was going to fail anyway!
New fluid is the best thing your trans can hope to have in it! The lubricating and hydraulic properties of trans fluid are damaged by heat! If the fluid is overheated, ie. over 250 deg. F it is probably junk. If your trans has a plugged filter, it probably needs to be rebuilt.
ATF, of any spec, Dextron III, Mercon, ATF+4, or MerconV, or ??? and the list goes on. They all are prone to heat failure. There is no reason to think that changing the fluid on your already abused trans is going to cause a failure.
When you drop the pan, and the magnet is "fuzzy" You might have a problem.
Otherwise, buy a new gasket and filter and fill it back up. Keep in mind that the torque converter will hold about 70% of the fluid. So if you can't drain it, change more often.
It would be the same if you were to say the same thing about an engine. "don't change the oil, "the damage has already been done".
No wonder I'm still fixing these things,
Change The Flippin' Oil, no matter what it's in

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Old 11-24-2011, 12:39 PM   #17
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Im glAD you gave your opinion/experience.
My fluid looks red.
I have a montero sport 2001(170K) and the E250 w/E40D (150K)and they both actually look red enough..
No unusual burned smells

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