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Old 10-05-2009, 04:01 PM   #57
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.....The [moderator edit] that control the HOA ......
Well there is an easy solution to that.....

Just wait for "Duck Season" and shoot those pesky ducks!

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:10 PM   #58
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We live in an HOA controlled community that up until recently allowed RV's as long as the were screened from public view. The [moderator edit] that control the HOA decided that wasn't good enough so when the first phase CC&R's came up for renewal (after 20 years) they voted to change the rule to nothing higher than the 6 ft fence. We have until 2014 for our phase to vote on this. Hopefully our side will have [moderator edit] to stand up to the board and "just say no"
Odds are the [moderator edit] will get their way; after they get this thing passed they will make your life a liveing ----.
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Old 10-05-2009, 04:21 PM   #59
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Well there is an easy solution to that.....

Just wait for "Duck Season" and shoot those pesky ducks!

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Old 10-05-2009, 04:47 PM   #60
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I guess to sell and move if I disagree with the HOA is good advice. However, at my age, the mental stimulation of the fight keeps my mind sharp and allows me some entertainment.

I love the smell of Napom burning in the morning! I also love playing with the ill-informed, uppity, power seeking members of some boards and Junior Attorneys. It's little cost for such great enjoyment!
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I love the smell of Napom burning in the morning! I also love playing with the ill-informed, uppity, power seeking members of some boards and Junior Attorneys. It's little cost for such great enjoyment!
To each his own. If you can control the game, fine. The probllem with the BODs that we had to deal with is that they made up the rules as they went along. With the power of the homeowner's pocketbooks behind them, they filed several very misguided lawsuits against owners - and lost every one. Those homeowner, however, got to pay double - defending themselves and contributing to their own prosecution. No thanks.

Rusty, I'm glad to see that you live in a community where sanity apparently prevails. We had that, too, for a brief time. I knew that there were a couple of other developments which also had reasonable BODs. We followed your advice and sold and moved out. When you get violations notices for items not in the CC&Rs, that IS the only option.
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I guess to sell and move if I disagree with the HOA is good advice. However, at my age, the mental stimulation of the fight keeps my mind sharp and allows me some entertainment.

I love the smell of Napom burning in the morning! I also love playing with the ill-informed, uppity, power seeking members of some boards and Junior Attorneys. It's little cost for such great enjoyment!
If you can afford it I say give em-----------------woops there I go again;
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:21 PM   #63
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I'm not familiar with "napom", but I remember "napalm" from VietNam and it was pretty nasty. Personally, I've always been an advocate of nuke 'em and turn the sand into glass.

BTW, FWIW - I live in Sun City TX where the BOD is still controlled by the developer until the buildout in a couple of years. The HOA has a set of standards and rules and they are applied evenly across the board. As a retired military man, I'm used to regulations and structure and knew what to expect before I bought. Do I think some of the rules are petty? Yep, but I knew of them ahead of time and accepted them for what they were. After 8+ years I still haven't regretted my decision.
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To each his own. If you can control the game, fine. The probllem with the BODs that we had to deal with is that they made up the rules as they went along. With the power of the homeowner's pocketbooks behind them, they filed several very misguided lawsuits against owners - and lost every one. Those homeowner, however, got to pay double - defending themselves and contributing to their own prosecution. No thanks.

Rusty, I'm glad to see that you live in a community where sanity apparently prevails. We had that, too, for a brief time. I knew that there were a couple of other developments which also had reasonable BODs. We followed your advice and sold and moved out. When you get violations notices for items not in the CC&Rs, that IS the only option.
In Florida, if they take you to court and lose, they have to pay their costs and yours. I play like an attorney, I run up their tab, drag it out while I have virtually no costs. In many small HOAs, they tire of the fight and the associated costs and give up!

I doubt my strategy would work in a large HOA.
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To me, it all boils down to this:

1.) If you don't want rules, don't buy property in an HOA neighborhood.

2.) If you buy property in an HOA neighborhood and agree to the rules at the time of purchase, then cowboy up and abide by them. If you can't or won't, sell and then see 1. above.

We've lived in our HOA neighborhood for 12 years and have yet to receive the first "nastygram" from the HOA. Wonder why that is???

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The world is not as black and white as you make it out to be. If it were, we wouldn't need supreme court judges or internet forum moderators, just to name 2. Just because some people are willing to give up their rights to own legal property because a bunch of pig headed jerks need to pump up their egos doesn't mean I have to, at least not without a fight. I never backed down from a bully on the grade school playground, and I don't plan on starting now.

What it actually boils down to is this...if they insist on making me move my RV that no one else can even see every 47 hours, that's exactly what I'll do...trapse it through the subdivision every other day, and be 100 times more of a nuisance to my neighbors than I ever was before, because that is the letter of the law as handed down....no RV for more than 48 hours at a time. And I'll be sure to let every one of my neighbors who will listen know that I am doing it because I'm required to do it by our HOA.
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I like your style. I think you should have a sign made for the side of the MH that reads:

"I parked it for 47 Hours,
I am now complying with the regs.,
Just on my way back to start the next 47 Hours
Courtesy of your BOD
Have a nice day!

To make sure it is seen, honk the horn every few minutes and give the Royal hand wave as you drive by.

God, I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The world is not as black and white as you make it out to be. If it were, we wouldn't need supreme court judges or internet forum moderators, just to name 2. Just because some people are willing to give up their rights to own legal property because a bunch of pig headed jerks need to pump up their egos doesn't mean I have to, at least not without a fight. I never backed down from a bully on the grade school playground, and I don't plan on starting now.
Fact: You're in violation of the rules. Why are you fighting to do something you agreed you wouldn't do when you bought the property?

Honestly, no offense is intended, but I just don't get it.

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Check your local laws. Who owns the street? In a former home that had an HOA, we had rules that governed who and what could park on the street in front of our home. It turned out that the street belonged to the city. The HOA had no jurisdiction over it so none of the rules relating to it were enforceable.

If you live in a neighborhood where the city owns the street, the rules governing it may not be enforceable. If there are no city ordinances against it, you may be within your rights to park in the street.
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Check your local laws. Who owns the street? In a former home that had an HOA, we had rules that governed who and what could park on the street in front of our home. It turned out that the street belonged to the city. The HOA had no jurisdiction over it so none of the rules relating to it were enforceable.

If you live in a neighborhood where the city owns the street, the rules governing it may not be enforceable. If there are no city ordinances against it, you may be within your rights to park in the street.
I can't believe I missed it!!!! I've read the rules over and over, and they only refer to the lot! NOTHING ABOUT THE STREET! So I can combine both ideas....Park it on the street with a big sign that reads:

I WANTED TO PARK IT ON MY VACANT LOT WHERE NO ONE CAN SEE IT, BUT THE ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL BOD OF OUR HOA SAY I GOTTA PARK IT HERE. IF YOU WOULD PREFER I PARK IT WHERE I WANT ON MY OWN PROPERTY, PLEASE CALL XXX-XXXX AT EXT. XXX.

But I have yet to get a reply on my email I sent Saturday. If I don't hear back by Friday, I'm going to call. Actually, I hope they just continue the dispensation, but in a way, I hope they don't!
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