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10-05-2009, 12:14 PM
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Location: Indianapolis,IN USA
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Live in Indiana and have a high property tas on my rig. Is it possible to register my rig in Arizona (Phoenix) since I spend about four or five months a year in Az? Are the taxes high? ($1900 In Indy)
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10-05-2009, 12:48 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
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I paid over $4000 in AZ for my new 2009 Dutch Star 4010 license plates.
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10-05-2009, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Auburn, CA, Havasu, AZ & Mulege, BCS
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The short answer is you have a permanent residence (an address for the business of life), and should register your vehicles, get your driver's license, vote, maintain insurance, etc. at that address. Question is: where is that place?
If you spend more than 6 months a year on the road, you can "reside" in your coach if you make some adjustments. For a permanent residence you can rent a miniature place in South Dakota where they will receive and forward your mail, where you will reside for voting and for a driver's license and as your permanent address. This will entitle you to register all your vehicles in South Dakota where they are happy to have your (surprisingly small) fees. You do have to show up there, IIRC, to obtain your driver's license. You might find that this helps on state income taxes as well, but ymmv.
If you are searching for an alternate domicile, SD is the best deal according to the largest bunch of full timers I run into. I.e., I hear FL, TX, MT, WY & WA as well. But I hear SD more often by a long stretch, and by my research it appears to have less misc. gottcha's than any other.
Lots of folks just pick one of the above & fake together a way that they are not really a resident of that state (still have driver's license from a "home" state, still have insurance address elsewhere, vote where they lived for a carreer, etc.). Maybe its just me, but that seems like a cow who can't help herself from returning to the site of the burned down barn. If you are really a resident someplace, faking something else for tax purposes is asking for trouble IMO. If you are truly on the road more than half the year, and care enough about costs to relocate your permanent residence (you are still entitled to maintain a summer residence just as folks have had a mountain cabin retreat for centuries), why screw around? IMO its better to go whole hog and relocate your residence once you qualify so there are no left over hassles.
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10-05-2009, 11:17 PM
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In Az, the plate fees are based on the MSRP of the vehicle when new. I looked up your rig and came up with a MSRP of $216326. For 2009, the plate fee would have been around $1545.
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10-06-2009, 06:45 AM
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Indianapolis,IN USA
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I guess there is no big difference. The plate fee here is $41.00.
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10-06-2009, 07:06 AM
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Alpine Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert-W
I guess there is no big difference. The plate fee here is $41.00.
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Wish our license plate fees were only $41.00 out here. Welcome to California all our vehicle fees suck.
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10-06-2009, 02:20 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Florida Cooters Club
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Silver Springs, FL. USA
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Now if you registered in Florida or South Dakota, there would be a considerable $ advantage. But Indiana would almost assuredly consider that tax fraud, since you otherwise maintain your residence in Indiana.
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2004 American Tradition; 2007 GMC Acadia
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10-07-2009, 09:41 AM
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Junior Member
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Phoenix
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There is no personal property tax in AZ on vehicles, just a high license fee, but it is reduced by 16.25 % every year you own the vehicle.
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2002 Acura MDX
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10-07-2009, 06:46 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Missouri
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We are moving back to AZ. after being in MO for 4 years
we have a 1994 Holiday Rambler sticker 93k
anyone want to guess what our plate fees will be/
thanks
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10-07-2009, 08:10 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Texas Boomers Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Port Aransas, TX
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I Texas we pay a reasonable registration fee and don't have property tax on vehicles. Several years ago, our amateur legislature passed a law that had the unintended consequence of making our popup camper subject to property tax. That lasted as long as it took the legislature to pass a 'never mind' law.
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2008 Itasca Meridian, Cummins ISB 350, Allison 3000, Progressive EMS, Supersteer MCUs, Aventa II, Air Force One, Tire Safeguard TPMS, 15,000 BTU roof AC, Blue Ox Tru Center
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10-07-2009, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by antlerz
We are moving back to AZ. after being in MO for 4 years
we have a 1994 Holiday Rambler sticker 93k
anyone want to guess what our plate fees will be/
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About $113 bucks plus your emissions test fee ($25?)
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10-08-2009, 03:25 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Missouri
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thanks,
we are looking forward to the warm winters again
not traveling too much these days
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10-14-2009, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Crossville,TN USA
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The TN registration on our '08 Jeep Liberty=$24 per year, on our '04 Dutch Star pusher= $24 per year, on our '05 Pace American 20' enclosed trailer was a one time , lifetime =$75. No Inspections, no emissions, no personal property tax.
TN has no state income tax, nor any excise or personal property tax. Real estate property taxes are very low, i.e. our home in Crossville, TN is a 2000 SF single story, 3BR, 2 and 1/2 bath with 2 car garage with a 20' X 50' separate RV garage non 2.97 acres and last year our property taxes were under $650 for the year.
TN does have a steep sales tax of 8.5% and each county can add on up to 1.25%, which our county takes the max.; thus, our sales tax is 9.75%. The sales tax on cars, trucks, boats and RVs is held to a max of 7% of the trade difference, i.e. we just bought a new to us Jeep that was priced at $16,591 and the dealer gave us $16,000 for our trade and we will pay Cumberland County 41.37 as the 7% sales tax on $591.
Y'all come on down.
BTW, I just found out why the University of TN fans love their bright ORANGE color---on Saturday they can go watch the Vols. in Knoxville, and then they can truck over (literally) to Nashville where they can direct traffic for the Sunday's Titans game and then on Monday they can go to work for TDOT picking up trash on the TN highways and never have to change clothes.
SBe safe out there, Ken.....
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11-05-2009, 04:51 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Parker Az
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we live in AZ and my fees 3 years ago were $3600.00 on the MH in AZ. I changed to Montana LLC, this year the fees were $138.00 on the MH. I have reg. 5 things in Montana and saved a bunch even on sales tax. you need to look into a Montana LLC.
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