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Old 11-08-2003, 02:39 AM   #1
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We have a 86 Allegro 31' RV, and the front and back fiberglass caps are hard to keep up. Ihave tried all sorts of products, Protect all system you name it. It comes out good, but after a while in the elements, the oxidation little white dots start coming back.
So two weeks ago, I put Armor All on a little section to see what it would do. Well since then it has rained on it, the hot sun rays has been on it, and I cannot believe that it is still shining just like 2 weeks ago. No fading of it, no white spots, just shining pretty in that one spot.
So does anyone know does Armor All effect fiberglass in any harmful way. I would love to finish off the front and back, but I dont know if it is harmful. The label says dont put on Glass, but it does not say fiberglass.
Any help?
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Old 11-08-2003, 02:39 AM   #2
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We have a 86 Allegro 31' RV, and the front and back fiberglass caps are hard to keep up. Ihave tried all sorts of products, Protect all system you name it. It comes out good, but after a while in the elements, the oxidation little white dots start coming back.
So two weeks ago, I put Armor All on a little section to see what it would do. Well since then it has rained on it, the hot sun rays has been on it, and I cannot believe that it is still shining just like 2 weeks ago. No fading of it, no white spots, just shining pretty in that one spot.
So does anyone know does Armor All effect fiberglass in any harmful way. I would love to finish off the front and back, but I dont know if it is harmful. The label says dont put on Glass, but it does not say fiberglass.
Any help?
Joe
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Old 11-08-2003, 05:08 AM   #3
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I just went to the ArmorAll site. Nothing is mentioned about the use on fiberglas, but I believe the caps are painted, not unfinished gelcote. In any event, ArmorAll does have an exterior polish for the application, in the form of a spray on polish. It does say to remove all oxidation prior to applying.

Have you every tried 303? It's a similar product that was used in the space program. I've used it for a lot exterior areas on vehicles, all but the painted surfaces. I prefer a good polish job to inhance the shine to a mirror and then protect it with a good wax protectant.

I found a product by Penzoil, that was dropped from the market place, why I don't know. It's call TOTAL CARE. It was quite expensive at first, but I bought a bunch of closeouts for $5 each. This product comes in a box with a special sponge and a Mircale Cloth. I've got to tell you, it's the darnest product I've ever used, so much so, I searched all over and scrounged up about 10 packages of it, which should last me a life time.
You want to talk about a finish protectant, this one bests them all.
The only problem I every heard about using ArmorAll on painted surfaces, is that it will give a painter fitz and cause fisheyes in the paint.

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Old 11-08-2003, 05:31 AM   #4
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Hi Tomcat
Good info on the armoral. This is off the subject but I am still waiting for the final report about Tempo Shield. Please post where we can find it. the rv world wants to know.
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Old 11-08-2003, 01:29 PM   #5
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Thanks for the info. Yes I have done the compounded, deoxidizing, polishing, buffing routine and it really shines after that. Both front and back caps. But after several weeks, the oxiding haze starts to come back, and I have done this lots of times in one year. Thasts how long we have had it. The sides are aluminum and they stay clean and bright all the time. So I guess you can say I am tired of all the rubbing that it takes to do the front and back. If it would last longer it would be ok. The darn thing runs great and all appliznces and accessories all work to.
So basically I was looking for a quick fix to kind of hold it over for a while. And when I tried Armor All, I was surprised.
Heck I have a book that is called the 10 minute tech Volume 2 for Rv's by Trailer Life Books, Page 136, and in there they say that a person is using WD40 on everything. Now I wont go that route, but I figured maybe Armor All would help. So I am going to hunt down the Armor All Car shine like you mentioned and give it a try.
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Old 11-08-2003, 08:30 PM   #6
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there is a product on the market called PENETROL
it will solve all your problems on dullness.
will work on anything. it is labeled as a quality paint conditioner.an be put on with a rag or i spray mine with a paint gun after cleaning it good. but dont wipe it off like instructions says. will stay sticky for a few hours but dries to bright shine. allegro factory
uses this product.

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Old 11-09-2003, 02:07 AM   #7
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Richard, where do I find Penetrol? Is there a web site to go to, or does Wal Mart or NAPA maybe might have that.
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Old 11-09-2003, 03:13 AM   #8
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Try this site for some answers. http://www.floodaustralia.net/produc...rol_marine.htm

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Vaughn2,

I've been trying to get a convertor to reply to my request for quote. Convertor being a company, that will take 60" wide rolls and slit them down to 10"wide.

Also, I am still testing the product. It does as I expect, but I want to make sure I cover all bases before I commit it to the public.

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Old 11-09-2003, 08:30 AM   #10
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NO NEVER use armor on anything. With in 6 month it will be worse than before.

Now if you use 303 thats a different story. Their web page has a recomendation for fiberglass including chalked surfaces.

www.303products.com

Put some on a year ago and the black streaks that we all fight wipe off with a wet rag.

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PENETROL can be found at Lowes or any paint store such as Sherwin Williams. Its a good product, but IMHO hard to use.

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j & s i got mine at a true value hardware. if they dont have it , it is on there computer and they can order it. ps i find it a lot better when you dont wipe it off , wipe on generously and forget it. it will get tacky for a while but will dry.

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I put penetrol on my boat about a year ago to try to blend in an area where a name was painted for several years. The penetrol made is all nice an bright/shiney --- now a year later, it' time to do it again as I can now see wher thename was again... not too bad-- 1 year in Florida sun and salt water
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Old 11-20-2003, 03:39 PM   #14
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Richard, I found the Penetrol at my local Sherwin Williams paint store and it even says on the can that it is used for motorhome fiberglass restoring. So i bought it, and tried it out, and Richard it looks GREAT!!!! It has been on the front and back caps now since I last replied to this post, it has been rained on, lots of south louisiana sunshine, and you name it, it still looks fanastic, and no little white spots reappearing. What a relief and thanks so much.
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