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07-15-2019, 05:49 PM
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Avoiding winterizing
I need to spend Dec in a winter climate in my class A motor home. I can hook up to shore power but don’t have a heated water source. If I keep my furnace on will my pipes freeze?
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07-15-2019, 06:01 PM
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You need to supply a lot more information, how cold, will you skirt your RV, do you have something to tell you how colour set gay is. Do you have an extra $5,000.00 for repairs. If it was me I would purchase a small air compressor and blow air through all my lines, you are still taking a big chance.
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07-15-2019, 06:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jewelsabia
I need to spend Dec in a winter climate in my class A motor home. I can hook up to shore power but don’t have a heated water source. If I keep my furnace on will it freeze my pipes?
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i seriously doubt that running the furnace will cause your pipes to freeze. in fact, it will likely have the opposite effect.
you don't indicate the make/mode/yr of your MH. newer models likely direct heat to the water pump, lines and fresh tank while older models may not. and "newer" and "older" will likely mean different things depending on the mfg. keep in mind that the black and gray tanks may not receive heat. it will also depend on where you will be in December. northern minnesota or southern illinois? both have winter but minnesota has OMG WINTER!! while southern illinois has winter. and i assume you'll be living in the MH as opposed to storing it? you might want to rent an extended stay lp tank cuz if its OMG WINTER! you'll go thru a lot of lp.
let us know what you have and where you'll be and we may have better advice for you.
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07-15-2019, 06:18 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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How new? Do you have an arctic pac in your RV? The furnace generally heats the area around the fresh water pump, but the wet bay is often a weak spot, even with the arctic pac heaters on the waste elbows. You could put some 100 watt light bulbs in the wet compartments and some use a resistive heater tape wrapped on the water hose.
I have an arctic pac and I have run for days in sub 20 degree weather...always with the heat and arctic pac running. An extra propane tank might be a good thing to have as well and if it gets really cold, keep the RV thermostat set in the mid 70's and all the cabinet doors where there is water open.
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07-15-2019, 06:21 PM
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avoiding winterizing
27 ft. Itasca, 2013, Will be living in it if possible. Near a CO ski area, will get down below freezing for sure, maybe 28 degrees in December. I could skirt it.
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07-15-2019, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jewelsabia
27 ft. Itasca, 2013, Will be living in it if possible. Near a CO ski area, will get down below freezing for sure, maybe 28 degrees in December. I could skirt it.
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Bahh...28 degrees isn't winter. Try making ice at 28 degrees. You should be fine. Keep it heated. Skirting only makes a difference with a lot of wind.
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07-15-2019, 06:26 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Welcome to the Forum:
How will you provide fresh water to the RV?
Will you be dumping the gray and black tanks occasionally..
Does the RV have basement heat that heats areas that have plumbing, and your gray/black tanks and dump valves?
How cold does it get?? What is the lowest temperature you anticipate?
How will you refill the propane tanks?
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07-15-2019, 06:51 PM
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avoid winterizing?
I will be emptying grey and black water tanks with a macerator into a clean out on site. I can buy one of those heated hoses. Haven't figured out the propane issue yet. Hoping the temps will stay above 20 at night. I have basement heat but not sure about waste tanks etc. Will have to check that out.
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07-15-2019, 06:53 PM
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Ford Super Duty Owner
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Waste tanks are in the basement...only concern is the waste elbows in the wet bay, if you have one. I often use a remote thermometer (like $19) in the wetbay and you can turn on a light if you need a little heat to bring the temp up.
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07-15-2019, 07:12 PM
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There are wall adaptors that turn stuff on and off at certain temps.....put a small heater in ....
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07-15-2019, 08:02 PM
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Is it possible to avoid the problem altogether and rent a small cabin and stay in and winterize the RV?
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07-15-2019, 08:36 PM
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Thousands of discussions on winterizing..
You can have a much larger LP tank installed such as a 100# (or 2) and the "stay awhile" type connector then have deliveries made.
As was said, you can add from a 100 watt to a heating bulb and a inline thermostat to keep the wet bays warm enough.
You can get a heated fresh water hose, or just use the fresh water tank and drain your hose.
You can also keep the macerator protected and walk out the line after dumping.
You may have to make a few short term adaptations for really cold snaps.
After having ours out in zero degree weather and 130+ hours straight below freezing, I am much more relaxed about a little cold weather.
I freaked out the first winter when it got below 30, now it's all good.
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07-16-2019, 08:25 AM
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avoiding winterizing
Thanks everyone for the helpful advice
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07-16-2019, 12:56 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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You do not need heated hoses...you dump when it’s above freezing and take on water at the same time and then use your 12V water pump. If you drain the hoses you do not need to store them in a heated area.
If in doubt about enough heat in the basement water area you can burn a 100W bulb when it gets below 28.
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