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Old 02-28-2009, 03:43 PM   #43
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It is amazing to me that several of you guys are still married - - you would have been out the door and on the road if I had to put up with your contempt and putdowns. I'm not surprised your wives don't help you - why would anyone help such pompous *****.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">set of handheld radios
We started out with handheld radios and had two problems. 1) the "talk" button has to be pressed to talk! ...asking a question required me to pick up a radio and drive one-handed while the bigger problem was that the DW could not seem to press the "talk" button in conjunction with actually talking; 2) the diesel engine noise over the outside radio was very bad when she was at the rear where she needed to be when I was backing up!

We now use a pair of dual-duplex headsets. There is no button to press, we can talk and listen as in a normal calm conversation, outside noises are minimal, it is very easy to ignore other "helpful" people (if I can't see and hear the DW, I don't move regardless of who else is making all kinds of wild hand signals) and we can even both talk and listen at the same time if we want to try that trick!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

AFChap (zoomie),
Great tip. We quit using the walkie talkies for the exact reason you stated. Have heard of them but your post helped me put 2 and 2 together. Good idea and thanks.

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It is amazing to me that several of you guys are still married - - you would have been out the door and on the road if I had to put up with your contempt and putdowns. I'm not surprised your wives don't help you - why would anyone help such pompous *****.

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Barb brings up an excellent point. For the first year or two we did not communicate well and it led to a great deal of frustration. Finally, we sat down and set some ground rules (both ways). The problem was, as I found out, she did not know what I wanted or needed. She elected not to drive and did not know what to look for. When I finally understood her perspective the communications issues cleared up and now she can spot me better than anyone.
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now she can spot me better than anyone
Same for me --- after some experience and resulting discussions, she knows what I and the motorhome can/can't do and what I will/won't do and what part of the motorhome I want where in relation to utilities etc. That is exactly why I pay attention to her only, and pretty much politely ignore all the "extra" help we sometimes get.
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We both drive alot for a living and are on the same "wave-length" when being a back-man. Anymore, she drives and parks at the CG's
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">set of handheld radios
We started out with handheld radios and had two problems. 1) the "talk" button has to be pressed to talk! ...asking a question required me to pick up a radio and drive one-handed while the bigger problem was that the DW could not seem to press the "talk" button in conjunction with actually talking; 2) the diesel engine noise over the outside radio was very bad when she was at the rear where she needed to be when I was backing up!

We now use a pair of dual-duplex headsets. There is no button to press, we can talk and listen as in a normal calm conversation, outside noises are minimal, it is very easy to ignore other "helpful" people (if I can't see and hear the DW, I don't move regardless of who else is making all kinds of wild hand signals) and we can even both talk and listen at the same time if we want to try that trick!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

AFChap,
What brand of headset do you use. I like the idea of a full duplex system. You were spot on with the difficulties with a push to talk walkie talkie.

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After 31 years of refusing to even sit in the driver's seat of our coaches, my wife's participation with regard to backing into a site is to stay in the coach (or toad) and out of the way. This may sound harsh, but she has never had any interest in taking or receiving directions to position the coach on a site. 31 years ago I figured out a process to back a coach onto a site, where I want it, on the first try. Since the process always ends with success I have learned to, without fail, follow it.

That being said, where I want the coach and where she wants the coach can be two different places.
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It is amazing to me that several of you guys are still married - - you would have been out the door and on the road if I had to put up with your contempt and putdowns. I'm not surprised your wives don't help you - why would anyone help such pompous *****.
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My wife thinks i'm a nitwit----
To stay married for a realy long time----BOTH----partners need a sence of humor; without it you get what your reply says********* and divorce.
You need to lighten up;letting off steam once in a while clears the air. All couples that have married for very long times will tell you that every once in a while theres a rough spot.
A good marrage will survive these; a poor marrage will head for the courts; those are the ones that usually last in months or not many years.

I have been traveling for many many years; I've seen a lot of campers yelling at each other while backing into a site; as soon as the camper is parked---all is quiet and these same couples that were yelling at each other, were quietly setting in their lawn chairs enjoying each others company.

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After 31 years of refusing to even sit in the driver's seat of our coaches, my wife's participation with regard to backing into a site is to stay in the coach (or toad) and out of the way. This may sound harsh, but she has never had any interest in taking or receiving directions to position the coach on a site. 31 years ago I figured out a process to back a coach onto a site, where I want it, on the first try. Since the process always ends with success I have learned to, without fail, follow it.

That being said, where I want the coach and where she wants the coach can be two different places.


GaryKD, I bet we are related!! Sounds just like like my wife when it comes to parking the rig. I wonder if you married my wifes sister!


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Thank Robert, having only been married to the same fellow for 43 years, I didn't realize what was needed to make a marriage work.

I can't count the number of times that some fellow will come over after I have parked the rig (with DH giving directions) to ask if I also drive on trips - and then tell me "don't talk to my wife - she'll get ideas" or how many wives have come up to ask me if it is hard to learn or how did I get my husband to LET me drive. They would love to, but their husbands either directly or indirectly let them know that it is a MAN'S job - and it threatens the husband's ego with the idea that their wife could do something as difficult as driving the rig. It is exceedingly dumb not to have both parties have the ability to drive the rig because you never know what can happen down the road.

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[quote]After 31 years of refusing to even sit in the driver's seat of our coaches, my wife's participation with regard to backing into a site is to stay in the coach (or toad)

Gary my wife tried to pilot our motorhome (one time On the interstate and going down a not too steep long dowhill; she froze, couldn't even move; lucky for me I got the wheel and convinced her to put on the brake; at that time we were up to 70 MPH, I got the motorhome stopped and took over the pilot seat. She has never asked to drive the motorhome again. Lucky me.
Gary I think I got you beat, I've been to every state several times; wore out three motorhomes doing it.
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After 31 years of refusing to even sit in the driver's seat of our coaches, my wife's participation with regard to backing into a site is to stay in the coach (or toad)

Gary my wife tried to pilot our motorhome (one time On the interstate and going down a not too steep long dowhill; she froze, couldn't even move; lucky for me I got the wheel and convinced her to put on the brake; at that time we were up to 70 MPH, I got the motorhome stopped and took over the pilot seat. She has never asked to drive the motorhome again. Lucky me.
Gary I think I got you beat, I've been to every state several times; wore out three motorhomes doing it.
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Did it ever occur to you that you should have taken the coach to a parking lot and let her get the feel of the coach - not have her start on an interstate and a downhill? Did you go through with her how to use the brake/exhaust brake/downshift on a downhill? No, you set her up to fail and you succeeded in proving to her that she couldn't possibly handle the job. Congratulation - I'm sure your ego needed that.

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Hi Barb,
I know what you are referring to when some males (overt or covertly) may not allow the female to drive. FYI, in my case this is not so. I've encouraged her, but without success. I lost a bet because of this. We were at Lazy Days and I registered us for the Driver Confidence course. Had to drag her kicking and screaming to the class. Privately, I bet the instructor a Coca Cola he would not be able to get her to take the driving part of the class. She told me if she was to attend the class I could not attend! I left. Later that afternoon she arrived back at the coach with her certificate of completion. She took the class and driving part of the course. This was the only time she has ever driven a coach and I don't even have pictures. The next day I found the instructor, congratulated him and paid the bet.
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They say "Tech-Link" on them ... got them for $40 with a cloth case from a magazine ad in 2004. They have worked great. I normally get out and take a look before I back up regardless, but with the headsets at least I can ask how close I am to something and also get a hint if something is happening that I didn't see!

My DW rarely drives the car, and has never driven the motorhome in spite of all kinds of encouragement ...she has tremors, and prefers not to drive unless she absolutely has to.
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