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Old 09-16-2018, 08:51 AM   #1
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Battery boost systems - how do they work?

Last week, we were looking at a Renegade Verona LE that was on a dealer lot. They were going to pull it out of its parking spot but apparently, the chassis batteries were so dead that it wouldn’t even light the dash with the ignition key turned on.

They fired up the generator (I don’t know if that was necessary) to try to use the “battery boost” to charge the chassis battery but the dash lights still wouldn’t come on after about 20 minutes.

This got me thinking about how these systems work. When the “battery boost” is on, is it designed to just trickle charge the chassis battery or are they wired such that you could actually start the engine off of the coach batteries?

They were saying that the chassis battery (or batteries) could be bad but I couldn’t imagine the dash lights not even coming on if the battery boost was on.

Are these systems pretty standard across manufacturers or do the way they work vary?

The service manager came out and messed with it for a little while then left. They never did get it started so we left after about 30 minutes. The problem shook my confidence in those systems because I thought they were designed to get you out of exactly this type of situation.

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If the coach batteries were (also) down/dead, how did they get the generator to start? The genset usually starts off the coach batteries.
Methinks they either didn't have the coach batteries enabled when they tried to boost the chassis battery, but that would be unlikely, if they knew what they were doing.
I'd say there were other issues with the coach. Hard to say for sure.

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Usually the battery boost is a momentary switch so it has to be held down for current to flow. Did they just hold it down for a few seconds or hold it down for the 20 min they tried to charge the batteries?
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That one may be different by the "Boost" or "Aux start" switch on my coach momentarily connects the house batteries to the chassis batteries for starting the engine when the chassis batteries are low.
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That battery boost switch activation circuit may be wired to the start battery.

In that case, with a totally dead start battery, it wouldn't work. The solenoid needs 5 to 8 volts to pull in.

They should have thrown a portable jumper pack on the start battery, just to give it a little voltage.

Another option is to jump across the 2 big terminals on the boost solenoid. That would send some voltage to the totally dead start battery and get things working.

Even if it was built to charge the chassis battery with the generator running the house battery charger, there are some battery isolation systems that need some kind of voltage in both batteries to work.
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Thanks for the replies! In response to Winterbagoal, the coach batteries must have been up because there were lights on as we were walking through it and there was no shore power.

Mr_D, I wasn't in a position where I could see exactly what the dealer staff was doing so I couldn't tell if they were holding anything down or they flipped a switch somewhere. Maybe they didn't do anything at all with the battery boost. I just assumed the MH had it and that they were using it but after some of the experiences I've had with dealers and their service departments, perhaps I shouldn't make that assumption.
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The Aux Start, aka Boost, mechanism is very simple. There is a solenoid that connects the house batteries in parallel with the chassis (engine) batteries, enabling whatever power the house batteries have available to be employed for starting, operating the dash displays, etc. The switch for Aux/Boost is momentary, i.e. it holds the solenoid engaged only as long as the switch is held down.

These systems are essentially identical in all RVs. The differences are in where/how thee wiring runs, solenoid location, etc., but the operating method is the same.
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Winterbagoal my generator has its own battery and nothing else runs off from it.

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