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Old 06-26-2006, 08:02 AM   #1
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We recently purchased a 2003 Newmar KSDP MH. Overall, the experience (DeMartini RV was great)and the MH have been relatively problem free.

However, on an overnight shakedown we (wife and I) noticed that when flushing the toilet there is a horrible odor that escapes from the black tank.

I filled and flushed the tank twice, including using the flush system, and added chemicals. The last two fifth wheels I've had never had that strong or foul odor eminate from the tank. It is so strong that just simple flushing requires a fast exit from the restroom and the restroom fan to be left on.

While driving the odor can be smelled in the driver's area if heavy swaying occurs. The system is closed and we should not smell anything while under way!

Any ideas on removing this stench from the tank? If not the wife says the tank has to go as she cannot stand it.

This odor appears to be from something that is "stuck" in the tank since the odor was present, even after filling and draining twice and then treating with chemicals, with no use after the cleaning.
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We recently purchased a 2003 Newmar KSDP MH. Overall, the experience (DeMartini RV was great)and the MH have been relatively problem free.

However, on an overnight shakedown we (wife and I) noticed that when flushing the toilet there is a horrible odor that escapes from the black tank.

I filled and flushed the tank twice, including using the flush system, and added chemicals. The last two fifth wheels I've had never had that strong or foul odor eminate from the tank. It is so strong that just simple flushing requires a fast exit from the restroom and the restroom fan to be left on.

While driving the odor can be smelled in the driver's area if heavy swaying occurs. The system is closed and we should not smell anything while under way!

Any ideas on removing this stench from the tank? If not the wife says the tank has to go as she cannot stand it.

This odor appears to be from something that is "stuck" in the tank since the odor was present, even after filling and draining twice and then treating with chemicals, with no use after the cleaning.
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Ed, take a walk up on roof and check your roof vents to make sure they are not plugged by anything or the cap isn't push down to far. Use a steel fish down vent pipe to see if you reach tank bottom and may remove any blockage if there is one. check also that vent pipe didn't drop to far into tank plugging up pipe with water so it can't vent.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by "007":
Ed, take a walk up on roof and check your roof vents to make sure they are not plugged by anything or the cap isn't push down to far. Use a steel fish down vent pipe to see if you reach tank bottom and may remove any blockage if there is one. check also that vent pipe didn't drop to far into tank plugging up pipe with water so it can't vent. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the idea. I hadn't thought about the vent pipe getting plugged.
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I think I double posted this. Getting old and forgetfull!

If one of the mods wants to remove the thread feel free to do so.

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Ed its not you, should have told you post to Newmar also.
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Make sure the bathroom fan is NOT on when you flush. If so, it willl suck its air directly from the black tank. OK to have on before and after but not during.
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What make & model is the toilet? Some Thetfords have an emergency overflow drain that can leak odor back inside if there is no water in the P-trap in the drain line. You could add water (pour it into the drain hole under the rim) or plug the hole with some plumbers putty.

You might also have a leak around the base of the toilet, where it anchors to the floor. This could let odors seep inside the rig.
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You need to keep in mind, that when you use Air Conditioning, it dries out the Pee Traps in the Sinks , Bathtub, and some Comodes. The odors will seep in from these areas.
The Gray Water Tanks can give off some bad odors when the Pee Traps get dried out.
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Ed, I hate to tell you this but if all else fails check your pipe thats going into your floor flange to black tank. My 03 had the pipe fall out of floor flange and waste went into tank and also by the opening into compartment below before I realized what had happened. The smell was the worst you could imagine.
If you look down toilet opening and see a half moon of toilet paper you have a problem. Will require the removal of toilet and flange, get grip pliers and slowly pull pipe up so you will be able to glue flange to pipe. The pipe will give alot of resistance to pull it up, which is what you want because you will have a good seal around pipe as it enters tank. You will not brake seal if you pull steady no hard pulls.
Once you have pipe near even with bottom of floor check flange on pipe to see if it rests up to collar in flange. Than glue flange to pipe. You may have to push pipe down into tank, once its glued, to get flange to rest on floor to screw back on floor.
Jobs half done mix bleach with water and spray top of tank and rug area in compartment repeatedly until the smell is gone. Took a couple of days and mine was as good as new, the bleach works wonders.
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Some good ideas to look into.

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Ed I bought my MH from Demartini in Feb. in Sacramento... I was looking at the one you bought (looking on line) and loved that one too... Demartini was with out a doubt "THE" best dealer I have ever done business with including buying cars.. I would be willing to bet that if you can't get your problem fixed that they will bend over backwards to help you... After all word of mouth goes a long way
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We fought a similar problem for at least a year... Just something to check as it ended up being our problem..

The "vent" under the sink area (a cap with a rubber seal designed to allow air in and not out) was loose.. We finally found it loose and tightened it... Problem fixed.. Neither we or the dealer had found it... Worth a look..
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Aces:
We fought a similar problem for at least a year... Just something to check as it ended up being our problem..

The "vent" under the sink area (a cap with a rubber seal designed to allow air in and not out) was loose.. We finally found it loose and tightened it... Problem fixed.. Neither we or the dealer had found it... Worth a look.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where under the sink area? Assume bathroom sink in lower compartment? Wonder if this applies to a '94 Adventurer.
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