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Old 11-15-2008, 04:44 PM   #1
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Been awhile since I posted and thanks for the help. Different problem now. Tank sensors show empty, but toilet will not flush. Knife edge works great but the waste will not go down.
Tried flushing tank from toilet, but does not go anywhere except over the tank. Any guess?

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Old 11-15-2008, 04:44 PM   #2
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Been awhile since I posted and thanks for the help. Different problem now. Tank sensors show empty, but toilet will not flush. Knife edge works great but the waste will not go down.
Tried flushing tank from toilet, but does not go anywhere except over the tank. Any guess?

Thanks,
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Old 11-16-2008, 01:55 AM   #3
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I take it that you have tried dumping the black tank and it will not empty. If this is correct you have a blockage. Probably too much tissue at one time or a brand that does not break down easily. You will have to dissolve the blockage or call a septic tank or Porti Potty company to help you out. I had one customers coach with blockage that I had the pump truck connect to the dump hose of the tank and we sucked it out; blockage and all. This must be done carefully so as to not damage the tank. Let us know what you have been able to do so far.
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Old 11-16-2008, 02:41 AM   #4
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What will disolve it?

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Old 11-16-2008, 03:19 AM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROHawkins:
Been awhile since I posted and thanks for the help. Different problem now. Tank sensors show empty, but toilet will not flush. Knife edge works great but the waste will not go down.
Tried flushing tank from toilet, but does not go anywhere except over the tank. Any guess?

Thanks,
Randy </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Randy,

Are we talking about the 91 Coachman here?

When you open the blackwater dump valve does anything at all drain out?

Is the soil pipe comming down from the toilet dislodged from the tank and no longer connected so everything pours out over the top of the tank instead of inside it?

If you have a bad buildup problem you may need a back flush unit such as the Flush King pictured at the link below:

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping...ush-king/20522

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Put the back flush unit on the sewer outlet and close the dump valve on the back flush and connect your sewer drain hose from the back flush unit to the sewer drain/dump station.

Connect a garden hose to the flush port (not a good idea to use your drinking water hose).

Open the black water dump valve and turn on the water to the garden hose and open the baackflush valve to allow water to spray up into the black tank.

Being carefull not to overflow the tank let it backfill for a minute or so and then open the dump valve on the back flush unit. Keep doing this, closing the dump valve on the back flush unit to back wash the tank and then opening it to dump, until the clog is dislodged and the water runs clear.

You may also need to go in from above with a Johnny Wand such as the one at the link below:

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Old 11-16-2008, 09:11 AM   #6
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RO, The Wizard has it right. Most times it,s the TP ! (Ladies have a bad habit of LARGE WADS OF PAPER). I keep a Metal coat hanger (Straightened out of course) to stick down and break loose the obstruction, Try to back flush with a hose BUT BE VERY CAREFULL !!! (And Quick)

Help from a "Porta Potti Co is probaly the best thing to try.

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If your tank is empty but the waste will not leave the bowl and go down the drain, I'd say the blockage is between the toilet bowl and the tank. That's not unusual, because the amount of water used to flush is small and large clumps of paper or other stuff may lodge in the pipe. Especially if it has a bend in it, as many do. A standard toilet "snake" should break it loose, but you could try a waste digester or drain cleaner chemical first. Any product rated OK for septic tanks should be ok to use.

However, this sentence
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Tried flushing tank from toilet, but does not go anywhere except over the tank </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Puzzles me. Are you saying that water runs over the top (exterior) of the tank? That would indicate a breakage in the waste line from toilet to tank. Obviously a bad thing and needing professional repair.
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If you find that the problem is paper blockage, prevent a reoccurance by filling the bowl with more water prior to flushing.

Most people do not fill the bowl untill the contents float. That is a practise that will allow for paper build under the enterance to the tank.
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My toilet was blocked and I found that if I let the bowl fill (lifting up on the flush pedal) with clean water before flushing it, and repeating that 3 or 4 times, the clog would blow out into the tank and would clean it out. In retrospect, I realized that the clue it was starting to plug is that there would be a big bubble when it flushed. Next time I see a big bubble, I will do the full flush routine before it clogs.
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First, I would try a plunger. I've been able to dislodge a couple of clogs, but I had to really push the plunger down hard and quick, and it took a half dozen tries.
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My toilet was blocked and I found that if I let the bowl fill (lifting up on the flush pedal) with clean water before flushing it, and repeating that 3 or 4 times, the clog would blow out into the tank and would clean it out. In retrospect, I realized that the clue it was starting to plug is that there would be a big bubble when it flushed. Next time I see a big bubble, I will do the full flush routine before it clogs.
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There are a couple of posibilities, But a question: Have you tried taking a dump, that is dumping the black tank,, Just cause it SHOWS empty does not mean it IS empty, in fact unless you have some delux sensors, or just power washed them, the fact it shows EMPTY suggests there is a problem (It is not normal for those sensors to show empty unless you do a lot of work,, Mine do just now, but I did a lot of work)

So verify sensor woudl be step one

#2: I've had the tube between the toilet and the tank clog I mean... Well in Music horn players have several different types of devices called "MUTES" One horn player was telling students once, as he demonstrated one type of mute, that most all musical insturments can be purchased use, but this one, you always buy new, never used

It's called a Plunger mute.. and yes, you get it not at the music store, but in the plumbing section of the hardware store, The musical use is "Off label"

Had to use one "on label" a few times
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