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Old 08-07-2006, 11:44 AM   #1
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I want to do my own oil and filter changes. I've purchased an oil drain plug with a shutoff valve so that I can cut the flow of oil off when my drain bucket starts to get full. However, I have a dilema on the first oil change. The largest bucket I have is 5 gals. and the engine holds just over 6 gals. Of course, I could use the old finger in the dike trick, but that seems like it could get pretty messy. Any suggestions?

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Old 08-07-2006, 11:44 AM   #2
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I want to do my own oil and filter changes. I've purchased an oil drain plug with a shutoff valve so that I can cut the flow of oil off when my drain bucket starts to get full. However, I have a dilema on the first oil change. The largest bucket I have is 5 gals. and the engine holds just over 6 gals. Of course, I could use the old finger in the dike trick, but that seems like it could get pretty messy. Any suggestions?

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Old 08-07-2006, 12:32 PM   #3
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Yep, buy a second catch pan. You don't want to fill the first one full, it's to hard to handle if it is completely full. I let the first pan fill up half way then push it out of the way and slide the second pan under the drain. I only spill a very small amount of oil with this procedure.

Also, you are braver than me, I'm afraid to use a drain plug with a valve.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:55 PM   #4
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Gaines, my unit has two drain plugs, one is about 4" higher than the second plug. After draining the higher plug, change buckets. If your unit does not have two plugs then as suggested use two buckets and swap 1/2 full.
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:13 PM   #5
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I have a Fumoto shutoff valve and simply put the used oil right back into gallon containers. I line them up next to the outlet and it takes only a blink of an eye to snap the valve closed, push the full gallon out of the way, slide the next empty in and flip the valve back open. Maybe I'm fortunate that the height of the valve outlet is just where I need it to be relative to the necks of the gallon jugs. On windy days, I do have a small, very wide mouth funnel. I lift the MH on the jacks just an inch and the funnel protects the oil from being blown away from the jug's mouth.

While I'm lying underneath, I check chassis & engine fastener tightness with a torque wrench, electrical connections, etc. It works out pretty efficiently. By the time all 4 gallons have drained, I have all of the other items done, too.
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The valve I got is also the Fumoto, but I was looking for ways to drain the oil the first time so I can install the valve. Str8Shooter, the Fumoto is pretty much fool-proof. The valve lever sits in a notch when it's closed and I don't seen anyway for it to open by itself. I hope I am lucky enough for my oil pan to have two plugs like Woody's does. If not, sounds like the best way is to use two 5 gal buckets and switch them quickly when the first one gets a little over half full. Thanks for all of the tips.
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Just a suggestion which may not work for you or it may be messy.
If you are careful you can unscrew the bung on the pan to almost the last thread - go very slowly. Have the Fumoto in your other hand. Applying pressure to the bung continue to unscrew it until you hear/feel the threads clicking. This means that you've backed it out as far as it can go. Inch the Fumoto up to beside the bung and very quickly remove the bung and place the Fumoton in the bung hole. As soon as its in there, keeping pressure on it, the flow of oil will stop. Risky but, it works. I know becasue I did it on my CAT. I don't think that I lost more than a tablespoon of oil during the switch. As I said, its a bit risky but .....
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