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Old 03-09-2015, 12:07 PM   #43
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More then likely, the alternator will charge your engine batteries, without the BIRD. The alternator feed, to the BIRD is tapped off the OEM charging system. The solenoid energizes, to send the current to the house bank, when the engine is running.


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Old 03-09-2015, 04:46 PM   #44
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I can't seem to find the supplier of the board. Thought I saved the information. Try the attachment again. It works for me fine.

As a temporary measure find the two longer wires that come off the board. Each one should go to a large bolt with wires on it. Switch the two wires. It appears that half of your board is defective and this should then cause the generator or shoreline to activate the big relay. Worth a try for now.
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I can't seem to find the supplier of the board. Thought I saved the information. Try the attachment again. It works for me fine.

As a temporary measure find the two longer wires that come off the board. Each one should go to a large bolt with wires on it. Switch the two wires. It appears that half of your board is defective and this should then cause the generator or shoreline to activate the big relay. Worth a try for now.
I can't locate two long wires coming off the board. What confuses me is that my photo looks exactly like the one pictured in your attachment (see 1st paragraph under Update) and that one is an MTO-IRD......not a BIRD. The absence of the two longer wires as in the photo at the bottom of your attachment would also suggest that I have an IRD.

What am I missing here? New Trombetta arrived today and will install by Friday.
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I wouldn't do anything else until you install the Trombetta. Then you can rule that out if it does not fix your system. I am willing to bet that is your problem.

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Well now, looking even closer you may have an IRD. Seems a BIRD would be plug and play replacement.
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Well now, looking even closer you may have an IRD. Seems a BIRD would be plug and play replacement.
Installed the Trombetta with silver contacts and have no change. Engine batts still don't charge on shore power. I think I have an IRD (see photo in previous post) and am now looking for a replacement board (bIRD).

Anyone know where I can get one? I don't think Mega Tech produces them any more.
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http://intellitec.com/assets/pdf/145...-00362-000.pdf


This should be very easy to install.
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I hate to be the spoil-sport in all of this, but could it have just been a poor / corroded contact in the charge circuit and not a bad BIRD in the first place?
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I hate to be the spoil-sport in all of this, but could it have just been a poor / corroded contact in the charge circuit and not a bad BIRD in the first place?
Hi....thanks for your post. There is still question as to whether or not the coarch has a BIRD in the first place. From the pictures I posted a few days ago, it is likely my coach has an IRD board. That bring said, I am now looking to install either an Intellitec BIRD or a magnum smart charger. Might tou have a preference?
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I would opt for the BIRD installation because it will use the new solenoid you just replaced and allow maximum current to flow versus a smaller charger that only works one way as well.

Just note, without using the generator lockout function provided on some BIRD devices you can get an alternator fail light warning if running the generator while driving. It is not necessarily harmful but something to know about so you don't think oh heck, now what.
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Hi....thanks for your post. There is still question as to whether or not the coarch has a BIRD in the first place. From the pictures I posted a few days ago, it is likely my coach has an IRD board. That bring said, I am now looking to install either an Intellitec BIRD or a magnum smart charger. Might tou have a preference?

Preference? No.

But from a very basic diagnostic point of view (you know there's a reason the first thing on the 'troubleshooting' list in any electronics items owners manual is "Is it plugged in?") you should take a short bit of reasonable gauge wire and create a little 'booster cable' to bypass the IRD / BIRD to see if it's the technology or a bad connection or two.

If the bypass results in charging the technology is the problem, if nothing changes, it's a wiring issue.
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I would opt for the BIRD installation because it will use the new solenoid you just replaced and allow maximum current to flow versus a smaller charger that only works one way as well.

Just note, without using the generator lockout function provided on some BIRD devices you can get an alternator fail light warning if running the generator while driving. It is not necessarily harmful but something to know about so you don't think oh heck, now what.
Agree...The B in BIRD is for Bi-Directional
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I hate to be the spoil-sport in all of this, but could it have just been a poor / corroded contact in the charge circuit and not a bad BIRD in the first place?
That is a very good question. Bad grounds have been known to deceive many folks.
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I didn't read all the posts here so forgive me if I'm repeating someone else. The 2007 Monaco Knight came with an IRD not a BIRD. My inexpensive fix was a small trickle charger that taps off the top of the house batteries to charge the chassis batteries. The prices vary but my $15 one works fine and will not overcharge the chassis batts or tap too much from the house batts. Hope this helps....dan
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