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Old 02-23-2013, 03:11 PM   #15
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Jeff, for us electrician-types, this tester is really neat! Cudo's to whomever figured it out. I think I'm gonna build one

Of course the Fluke meter will do it all too, assuming you know which holes to poke the test leads into and interpret what the meter's telling you.
I built one of these testers also. The biggest problem with these testers is the not unusual neutral leg that opens up when it's loaded for a bit. This is very hard to spot and it will devastate the coach electrical system and electronics. This finally drove me into the arms of Progressive Industries.
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Old 02-23-2013, 03:14 PM   #16
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As noted above, testers are great for an initial test, but most problems occur after you're hooked up and only an EMS can protect you then.
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Old 02-24-2013, 08:23 AM   #17
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I agree with Route 66, why spend a bunch of money building a single use tester when that money could go towards the purchase of an EMS unit which is monitoring your electric supply 24/7.

Most of the problems that I have encountered happen well after I have plugged into shore power. And I have Progressive Industries to thank fro being there and protecting my coach.

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BTW, an EMS will act as a tester when you initially plug in.

If there's a problem, the EMS will not let the power through to the RV.

This is the one I had with 2 displays. One display in the power bay for an initial test and one in the MH, so if something went wrong with the power, I could see what it was without going outside.


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I suggest a PRogressive Industries EMS. It will do it for you.
Saved me $3500 in the first month due to power surge. $3500 is what it cost my neighbor.
The best advise so far... It has saved me quite a few times....
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For the cost of spare parts I can do an initial evaluation of the pedestal before plugging in my Three Hundred dollar Surge Guard. Yes, the Surge Guard will protect my Rig after I do an initial test with the DIY tester. I can also test before doing any setup and save some time. Besides, it is a great way to learn more about electricity as it applies to your rig.
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I have a Progressive Industries 50 hardwired surge protector. It has saved me a couple of times.

The last time it saved me it did so by sacrificing itself. Glad it did but that caused me to have to remove it and bypass it to restore power to the MH. Once removed I sent it back to Progressive to have it repaired.

I now faithfully check the 50 amp service at the pedestal before plugging in. WHile I am confident the surge protector will protect the MH it's a PIA to remove it and bypass it while waiting on repairs.
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I have a Progressive Industries 50 hardwired surge protector. It has saved me a couple of times.

The last time it saved me it did so by sacrificing itself. Glad it did but that caused me to have to remove it and bypass it to restore power to the MH. Once removed I sent it back to Progressive to have it repaired.

I now faithfully check the 50 amp service at the pedestal before plugging in. WHile I am confident the surge protector will protect the MH it's a PIA to remove it and bypass it while waiting on repairs.
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I went to Lowe's today and bought a Sperry ET6204 4-Range Voltage Tester.


It will test voltages at 120V, 240V, 277V, and 480V. I'm going to keep it in the motorhome to test campground pedestals for proper voltage and polarity. The tester will not provide actual voltage, but will tell you if the pedestal is at least wired correctly. I have a voltage meter in the coach which I can check actual voltage levels if necessary.

It's not the best solution, but it was $6.00. If I lose it, I won't cry too much.

You have to know which holes in the pedestal receptacle to probe into to check the proper wiring, but I'm an old electrician, so I'm comfortable with this initial test. This way I can prove the pedestal is at least wired properly or improperly.

I also agree that the correct solution (bigger bucks) is an EMS. Mine's a portable unit.

I'd be happy to explain how to use it, but I suggest you have some electrical knowledge if you do. It will tell you if the 50A pedestal is a true 50A 240V pedestal or not just by probing it.
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i use the progressive ind 50 amp portable surge protector. it has save me from plugging in when the neutral was open. i bought it several years ago for about $100.

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Ok, I'm convinced I should buy electrical protection for my motorhome (50 amp). Any suggestions or recommendations between the TRC Surge Guard and the Progressive Industries EMS-PT50C ? Both are similarly priced. I want a portable model, not a hard wired unit. Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
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I tried out my home built pedestal tester as described in a previous thread on our current trip. It works great. I plug in a Kill-o-Watt meter to check for over or under voltage and to see if the cycle is where it is suppose to be. Now to install my hardwired Surge Guard.
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My vote goes to Progressive Industries based on their customer service.

My MH was hit by a surge in a CG, the PI surge protector did it's job but it did so by sacrificing itself. Pulled the unit out overnighted to PI and had it back in 3 days including shipping both ways. So they received it in the morning, replaced the bad board that day and shipped it out that afternoon. All it cost me was the FedEx to them.
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I was leaning towards the PI 50 HW unit until I found the Surge Guard 50 HW at CW for 200 bucks.
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