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Old 01-13-2013, 10:24 AM   #15
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:43 AM   #16
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I believe Bruce is talking about a flood of 100 or so gallons of black/gray water into the tank causing an overflow of the tank into the distribution box going out into the field lines. normal settling and enzyme action on solids keeps soiids out of the distribution box. This 'box' acts like a manifold, allowing water to be distributed into the field for absorbtion into the ground. In newer systems, a leach field with gravel beds and a sort of tunnel for water flow is used. In either case, it basically takes water to an area where it can be absorbed into the ground through a layer of gravel.
If this large amount of water/solids/paper etc is dumped there is a chance the solids can get into the distribution and then into the field lines. This would/could clog the surface of the gravel and slow or stop absorbtion of the water into the leach field area.
Pretty 'crappy' explanation I know
Actually doc that's a darn good explanation of the potential downside of dumping large quantities at once into a septic system. And for those of us lucky enough to have a grandfathered lagoon system it still may cause an odor from the lagoon.

I dump the TC into my system with no ill effects, the coach with it's 100/78 gal tanks either goes to the local free dump or just waits 'till it's full enough to dump.

As to the original topic, I've never used any chemicals at all, if the vents are open and the cheater vents on the gray water drains are working properly no smell has ever entered the coach. Well, once, both fantastic fans were in exhaust mode and I flushed, a bit of smell came back up through the WC, but that was my fault.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:22 PM   #17
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The use of chemicals in an RV holding tank is highly overrated, The only chemical that you really need is one that goes by many names, Di-Hydrogen oxcide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, H2O, And of course we all know it as Water.

If you are going to add ANYTHING, consider a waste digester (Biological) do not add chemicals more than what is necessary.

I do adimt to using half a cup each of Calgon and Dawn dishwashing liquid (NOT the anti-bacterial type though) from time to time, along with about a 1/3 tank of water. there is that Water again, Drive oh, say 50 miles and dump, easiest way to clean the tank.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:29 PM   #18
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The use of chemicals in an RV holding tank is highly overrated, The only chemical that you really need is one that goes by many names, Di-Hydrogen oxcide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, H2O, And of course we all know it as Water.

If you are going to add ANYTHING, consider a waste digester (Biological) do not add chemicals more than what is necessary.

I do adimt to using half a cup each of Calgon and Dawn dishwashing liquid (NOT the anti-bacterial type though) from time to time, along with about a 1/3 tank of water. there is that Water again, Drive oh, say 50 miles and dump, easiest way to clean the tank.
X2, nothing beats water. I use water softener occasionally to keep the sensors clean
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:42 PM   #19
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Why is it people that use Rid ex seem to have their septic tanks pumped out? In 2 houses have NEVER used anything in the septic system, one is 27 years old other is 16 and they have never been pumped or had one problem

I use OdoBan in my holding tanks, never used comercial RV chemicals. Flush the balck water tank every dump

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I do adimt to using half a cup each of Calgon and Dawn dishwashing liquid (NOT the anti-bacterial type though) from time to time, along with about a 1/3 tank of water. there is that Water again, Drive oh, say 50 miles and dump, easiest way to clean the tank.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:49 PM   #20
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Explain the surprise part? What could happen?
Along with what others have said about damage to the drain fields, depending on the elevation of your clean out if you have more volume going in than the system can handle it may end up in your shower, and or tub. Just like when the holding tanks in a rv over fill. If you do a little at a time should no problem. I use the local county park for $5.00 on the way in.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:07 AM   #21
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Why is it people that use Rid ex seem to have their septic tanks pumped out? In 2 houses have NEVER used anything in the septic system, one is 27 years old other is 16 and they have never been pumped or had one problem
I can answer that one.. It is called Hindsight.

You see when they first notice a problem they run out and, fully believing the ads, buy Rid-Ex and use it, but alas, it is already too late. Thus the pump out.

I see I'm getting a lot of support for Water, Water everywhere but not the kind you drink. (Take off on a famous poem, can you ID it).
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Does the winner get an Albatross??

Water, water, every where,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, every where;
Nor any drop to drink.
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This is starting to get a little off topic I do not have an odor problem. My question is more about dumping into a septic tank. The chemical part is kinda a secondary question dealing with not killing the natural enzymes in a septic tank. Some of the chemicals that are eco friendly actually add enzymes. I should have titled it different. I dump and flush the tank three times and add water before use. I was wondering if I have to do something special because it is a septic tank as they have specific chemicals. Also how about some more from you guys that use a septic tank to dump. Any problems? Thanks
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Sorry about that,

The only things you have to worry about dumping into a septic system are.

1. Killing the beneficial critters that break down waste.

2. Overwhelming the leach field (if equipped)

3. A backup, (remote chance if a properly designed system)


Avoid the toxic chems and stick with perfume types if any.

Only dump small loads to avoid forcing undigested solids/TP ect into your leach lines and you should be fine. I'm looking at a macerator system to slow the fill, can't quite justify the cost vs benefit as of now however.
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Another way to look at Dumping into your Septic , you've been away from home and that gives the leaching more time to leach and when you come home the whole system has taken a breather. Solids have settled to the bottom and leaching levels has been lowered. Once again I've dumped into mine for over 30+ years with zero problems.
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I'm looking at a macerator system to slow the fill, can't quite justify the cost vs benefit as of now however.

Well you know the costs today better than I do (my system is six years old)

The benefits....

Where I'm parked now it's 25 feet from the outlet to the hole in the ground, Now as it happens I have that much 3" stinky but that's a whole lotta hose.

I have been in one spot where it was 45 feet, again I have that much 3" but.. That's ALL So I used the pump and the 50 foot black hose (3/4 inch) and got 'er done.

I had one spot where there was a gray water dump at 74 feet, I do not have that much hose.. thugh I could only dump gray (We tend to need to dump gray more often) so I hooked my 25 foot gray hose and my 50 foot 3/4" Black hose and we made the trip.

I've been in places where the hole in the ground was HIGHER than the outlet on the RV.

Again the pump pumps uphill well

I've been on a site where there was a problem with the sewer and I had to pump next site over.

In short, advantages many.
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I would always leave about 5 gallons of water in your Black and Grey tank, you may be surprised how much that will help with odor.

For the tanks I would add a product that is call http://www.5starhappycamper.com/, works great and is very septic field friendly.

Add a scoop of that to your tanks with the 5 or 10 gallons while parked and I bet you won't have anymore tank odors
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OK guys. Right now I have a sweet setup for dumping my rv. Nice easy accessible sewer cleanout. I'm on city sewer so I don't need to worry about what chemicals I use in the holding tank. We are moving to a new house and I want to set up a similiar cleanout. At this house we have a septic tank. I have been told I have to use certain chemicals, I believe because of the enzymes. Which chemicals are ok for septic tanks and won't mess them up? Do I just need to change chemical or do I need to add a treatment to the septic tank also? Which ones are good? I've been checking out BioActive, Eco something, and TravelJohnny. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the post, I learned quite a lot reading the responses.
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