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06-02-2008, 06:41 PM
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We recently made our migration north. We used I 26 north to NC and before leaving SC we stopped at the Kangaroo truck stop at exit 5. I only needed about half a tank but it was cheaper in SC than NC so I figured why not. They were 4.43 and everyplace else was 4.59.
After leaving Forest City NC and heading up to I 40E then to I 77N I noticed there just wasn't any power so I knew something was up. Came to Fancy Gap mountain ( 8 miles long grade) in Va and we started to overheat about half way up so I backed way out of it and things settled down until I got to the next grade and we heated up again.
At Wythville VA I fueled up again at the Flying J and checked the exaust. It was VERY hot and had a strange oder confirming my suspessions of cut fuel. After about 25 miles it seemed like we were back to normal, good power, lower exhaust temp. and no strange smell to the exhaust.
The point I'm trying to make is: You get what you pay for and stick with the big boys for fuel!
I was luckey this time as I didn't burn a piston and everything else is still working well.
BTW: I wasn't the only person that experienced the bad fuel at this station.
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06-02-2008, 06:41 PM
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Location: Beaufort SC/ Harmony PA
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We recently made our migration north. We used I 26 north to NC and before leaving SC we stopped at the Kangaroo truck stop at exit 5. I only needed about half a tank but it was cheaper in SC than NC so I figured why not. They were 4.43 and everyplace else was 4.59.
After leaving Forest City NC and heading up to I 40E then to I 77N I noticed there just wasn't any power so I knew something was up. Came to Fancy Gap mountain ( 8 miles long grade) in Va and we started to overheat about half way up so I backed way out of it and things settled down until I got to the next grade and we heated up again.
At Wythville VA I fueled up again at the Flying J and checked the exaust. It was VERY hot and had a strange oder confirming my suspessions of cut fuel. After about 25 miles it seemed like we were back to normal, good power, lower exhaust temp. and no strange smell to the exhaust.
The point I'm trying to make is: You get what you pay for and stick with the big boys for fuel!
I was luckey this time as I didn't burn a piston and everything else is still working well.
BTW: I wasn't the only person that experienced the bad fuel at this station.
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06-04-2008, 05:10 PM
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I have noticed that problem even with the big boys, I think it is stale fuel that they are getting rid of because they bought it cheap a while back and have been stockpiling it, and now are selling it. I have noticed a drop of performance in my Mercedes which burns premium, and my Tundra which burns regular. I've had tractors that had stale fuel in them over the winter, and it is the same smell when burnt. I also dropped a couple of miles to a gallon too.
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06-14-2008, 05:57 AM
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Thanks for the tip Lee, we almost stopped at a Kangaroo when in SC. If you get the time you should report them to the State. Happy to hear the problem cleared up.
mark
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06-14-2008, 09:56 AM
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Also more ethanol is being introduced which in itself is reducing MPG 10% to 20% even if the fuel is not stale.
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06-14-2008, 11:29 AM
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I have never heard of ethanol being added to diesel fuel.
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06-14-2008, 02:09 PM
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Could have been bio-diesel, though. Same principle. The pump is supposed to be labeled if it has bio-diesel and also the percentage added if not 100%, but there are probably non-complying pumps.
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06-14-2008, 03:48 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV Roamer:
Could have been bio-diesel, though. Same principle. The pump is supposed to be labeled if it has bio-diesel and also the percentage added if not 100%, but there are probably non-complying pumps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bio-diesel/bio-diesel blends do not have the same effect on performance or fuel economy as ethanol does with gasoline. In my experience with it, I have seen no gains but I have not seen any losses either. The biggest caution with bio-diesel is that it is a very effective solvent and can cause fuel filters to plug up if you have "crud" in your fuel system.
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06-14-2008, 04:13 PM
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I think baby bear probally had stale diesel fuel, as for my vehicles the ethanol in gasoline is causing the poor gas mileage and performance problems. Try to avoid stations that sell ethanol now, also older vehicles fuel systems can be damaged by the ethanol, it deteriorates the rubber seals.
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06-15-2008, 03:09 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tom N:
I have never heard of ethanol being added to diesel fuel.
-Tom </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Tom,
I live in the gasoline world and missed the "DP" on Lee's post and was going on the Regular and Premium of Hillbilly2's post.
Anyhow gas or diesel we got one more thing to watch out for both at the pump and down the road.
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06-16-2008, 06:22 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV Roamer:
Could have been bio-diesel, though. Same principle. The pump is supposed to be labeled if it has bio-diesel and also the percentage added if not 100%, but there are probably non-complying pumps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And Bio-diesel cost more than ordinary diesel.
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