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Old 09-01-2013, 12:46 PM   #43
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Hello everyone. New to the MH world. What exactly is diamond shield? is it similar to clear coat and do all MH`s have it?
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Your question has been answered. But, as you can see for yourself, there are lots of folks out there that are not happy with the condition of the "Protective film" after some time of being on the front of the coach. We only read of the issues during removal of it here and on a couple of other RV forums. There are some folks that have had it removed or did it themselves and had great luck with no paint damage what so ever. Then, there are the ones that damaged the paint while attempting to remove it.

It's a great idea. The film that is. While not strong enough to bounce off anything larger than a tiny pee-gravel, it does do a fairly good job of keeping back a lot of the chips etc. that might occur otherwise.

But, due to certain circumstances, any of the brands of films can and do go bad. And, they go bad in multiple ways. Some fog up, some crack, some start peeling by themselves, some change from clear to rust color and more. At present, like stated in my other post, we're running our 9th year and so far, it's doing just fine. But, ours is and always has been, under a cover unless it's being used. And even then, I try as hard as I can, to locate a shady spot for camping, if and when possible.
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I am about to embark in the removal process for my 2003 Mountain Aire. I think this stuff is put on to get through the paint warranty term. It does look good for some years. The areas where I have removed it the paint looks new. I believe I would have had to paint the front of my coach by now without it. So I think I would have it put on a new coach. By the way, what do the little campfires mean under our names?
Saw a person with MA (2005 I think) successfully removing last week; had the most success with the front cap facing the morning sun (rather than hot air dryer) and a plastic ice scraper. I was surprised, but they weren't taking any paint off or scratching finish.
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There is a product. Quote from Motor Home magazine per Ken Freund," Vinyl-Off, it's in 8 oz., qt., and gallon containers from CrystalTek, www,CrystalTek.us.com, 866-485-5202." Hope this helps!
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There is a product. Quote from Motor Home magazine per Ken Freund," Vinyl-Off, it's in 8 oz., qt., and gallon containers from CrystalTek, www,CrystalTek.us.com, 866-485-5202." Hope this helps!
But does it work on 3M and/or Diamond Shield? It sounds to good to be true.
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According to his statement it does! He was recommending the above product to a RV owner that intended to remove his or her protective vinyl front end shield.
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I bought Vinyl Off and could not tell that it helped much. Direct sun did the most, peeled little pieces, cleaned residue w/Goo Gone. I lost a bit of clear coat on light colored paint only. I would never apply the film again unless I knew for sure I was selling the vehicle in 3 years or less.
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According to his statement it does! He was recommending the above product to a RV owner that intended to remove his or her protective vinyl front end shield.
I contacted "Vinyl-Off" by email with question on the product working on 3-M and Diamond Shield paint protector and here is their response.

Yes sir!!! Doesn't make it easy but definitely helps.... I'm told the best way to remove the protective film is apply vinyl off, wait 15 minutes apt it again and heat it up in small sections .... Peel it off. 8oz covers 60 sqft, qt covers 240, Gallon covers 1500 sqft. That's all for one application, remember to double your sqft since you are applying it twice! ~Chasity Clark~

On Sep 1, 2013, at 2:31 PM, "Don Hardman sent"
Will Vinyl-Off work on 3-M clear paint protector film and/or Diamond Shield clear paint protector film. These products are typically applied to cars and the front of Motor Homes to protect the paint from rock chips. They are some times referred to as a clear bra. Over time the film cracks and discolors and the only fix is to remove it. But this is a real chore to do. The only method that I found is to heat the film with a steam and then scrape the film for in small sections and remove the adhesive residue with 3-m solvent. This a long a labor intensive project. If your Vinyl-Off produce will remove the 3-m or Diamond Shield clear film this would be amazing. Thanks for any information.
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I have the Diamond Shield on mine, it is 6 years old, and still looks good. I am considering taking it off, but trying to figure out what I should use to keep the rock ships from damaging the paint. I don't look forward to the work needed to remove it, but at some point it will need to be done.
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HI all,
I just finished about 8 hours of removing the protective film from our front bumper. I was patient, used a heat gun sparingly, (you don't want to melt the film), then a hard plastic scraper to take the film off in very, very small pieces. Afterwards I used adheasive remover to get the left over adhesive off. Our bumper now looks like new again, as it should. One note, I have heard that it takes tons of adheasive remover. I poured small amounts at a time in a spray bottle and 'spritzed' it on. I used just over a quart for the entire bumper.
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I just finished about 8 hours of removing the protective film from our front bumper. I was patient, used a heat gun sparingly, (you don't want to melt the film), then a hard plastic scraper to take the film off in very, very small pieces. Afterwards I used adheasive remover to get the left over adhesive off. Our bumper now looks like new again, as it should. One note, I have heard that it takes tons of adheasive remover. I poured small amounts at a time in a spray bottle and 'spritzed' it on. I used just over a quart for the entire bumper.
Here is a thread I started on my 3-M paint protection removal. I have included pictures, techniques and supplies that I tried and what worked for me. One note working in the direct Sun did not help, I worked in the shade when possible and the results were the same.

It is a long process and labor intensive and you will go through a lot of scrapers and 3-M adhesive removal.

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I just finished about 8 hours of removing the protective film from our front bumper. I was patient, used a heat gun sparingly, (you don't want to melt the film), then a hard plastic scraper to take the film off in very, very small pieces. Afterwards I used adheasive remover to get the left over adhesive off. Our bumper now looks like new again, as it should. One note, I have heard that it takes tons of adheasive remover. I poured small amounts at a time in a spray bottle and 'spritzed' it on. I used just over a quart for the entire bumper.
Was this Diamond Shield or another?
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...Mine is now 7 years old and still looks good as new...
Mine's not that old, but still looks good.
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Was this Diamond Shield or another?
I cannot say with certainty which brand it was. The film had yellowed somewhat with brown lines behind it like mold. I have heard if it's Diamond Shield, it has a logo somewhere on it. Ours did not. The adhesive cleaner I used is by Autobody Master pn#5984. Like I said, I did use a heat gun very sparingly, maybe a 4" section at a time. Then scraped the vinyl film off. Once I got an entire section done, I used the Adhesive Cleaner in a spray bottle and again, the plastic scraper to get it clean. I have not yet did any buffing to the bumper. Honestly, I don't think it needs it. I've attached a picture that shows the progress. The section on the left is done, in the middle has only the adhesive, and on the right is the bumper with the film on it.
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I cannot say with certainty which brand it was. The film had yellowed somewhat with brown lines behind it like mold. I have heard if it's Diamond Shield, it has a logo somewhere on it. Ours did not. The adhesive cleaner I used is by Autobody Master pn#5984. Like I said, I did use a heat gun very sparingly, maybe a 4" section at a time. Then scraped the vinyl film off. Once I got an entire section done, I used the Adhesive Cleaner in a spray bottle and again, the plastic scraper to get it clean. I have not yet did any buffing to the bumper. Honestly, I don't think it needs it. I've attached a picture that shows the progress. The section on the left is done, in the middle has only the adhesive, and on the right is the bumper with the film on it.
Looks good. I didn't need buff either. I found that steam heat works the best, no worry about peeling paint or melted fiberglass, but still heats the film for removal. I used a very inexpensive one similar to this.

Conair Compact Fabric Steamer: Appliances : Walmart.com

This is not the exact one I used but they all work about the same way.
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