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Old 11-06-2013, 06:27 AM   #15
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Exactly how fast is crushing speeds?
A teeny bit faster then eyeball flattening
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:47 AM   #16
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No question in my mind. The Class A is a better ride and more carrying and towing capacity. Go with the Class A.
My C pulls 30,000 lbs and sails past A,s routinely with its DD 60....515 HP Turbo. Just Saying......
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Exactly how fast is crushing speeds?
85 MPH with my Super C
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:24 PM   #18
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The Embark has the 8.9 litre diesel while the Seneca has the smaller 6.7 litre engine. Embark can tow 20,000 lbs. I was told by a salesman it has airbags. I saw the youtube video...wow, it was entertaining.

Gulfstream makes the Super Nova which can tow a bunch. But not sure if it rides on air bags or not.
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:06 PM   #19
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Also check out the Nexus Ghost, not like Renegade or Showhauler but a lesser price point and a solid platform.....
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85 MPH with my Super C
And I'm sure your tires are rated for these speeds? If so I'd be interested in knowing the brand.
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And I'm sure your tires are rated for these speeds? If so I'd be interested in knowing the brand.
Wonder what mine are rated for....first day speedo was buried over 85 going uphill pulling the car....wooooops.
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Wonder what mine are rated for....first day speedo was buried over 85 going uphill pulling the car....wooooops.
The speed rating for Michelin XZA and most similar tires is 75 mph.
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What, your coach doesn't have crush control?
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Michelins....Hmmm, my speedometer is rated to crush speeds in excess of 120MPH...
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The Embark has the 8.9 litre diesel while the Seneca has the smaller 6.7 litre engine. Embark can tow 20,000 lbs. I was told by a salesman it has airbags. I saw the youtube video...wow, it was entertaining.

Gulfstream makes the Super Nova which can tow a bunch. But not sure if it rides on air bags or not.
I have a Supernova, mine is leaf springs all around. I have the slightly shorter 34 ft version. I think that all Supernova models are leaf springs, but air bag conversion on rear is a popular upgrade. I do not notice any problem with ride quality and leaf springs on mine.

I will agree that getting the biggest engine you can is a good idea. Mine has the 6.0 (VT365) International V8, rated at 300 hp. Could use more when towing and doing hills, but overall no real problem, just slow down and shift down gear or two. The bigger truck chassis based on class 8 will almost all have the 12-15 liter size engines with a lot more power than medium duty truck chassis with typically 6-7 liter size engines.

Engine in front is way easier to work on, hands down winner vs engine in rear.
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