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Old 12-18-2015, 07:57 AM   #1
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So, I found this video on youtube and I thought it was very informative. I'm not particularly fond of the title. I have spent several years dreaming of buying an RV and living in it and I'll spend several more until I retire. But I thought it was a good informative video.

Just out of curiosity ...Has anyone successfully got the dealer or manufacturer to buy back an RV?

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So, I found this video on youtube and I thought it was very informative. I'm not particularly fond of the title. I have spent several years dreaming of buying an RV and living in it and I'll spend several more until I retire. But I thought it was a good informative video.
Just out of curiosity ...Has anyone successfully got the dealer or manufacturer to buy back an RV?
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Nightmare or not is yet to be seen I guess but yeah I think its both
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You certainly don't have to spend your life savings. If I were a smart man I wouldn't spend a penny more than 100,000 thousand I feel but sadly I have expensive taste and I want what I want! Can't take it with you I guess.
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You certainly don't have to spend your life savings. If I were a smart man I wouldn't spend a penny more than 100,000 thousand I feel but sadly I have expensive taste and I want what I want! Can't take it with you I guess.
Been Rving all my life. From tents to trailers and now a motorhome. I feel very fortunate to have had and have this lifestyle. I have been told the two worse purchases are a motorhome and a time share. The motorhome and camping is what we do so I disagree. And, yes, we spent under $100,000 and are very happy and comfortable. Enjoy the adventure.
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it's an over simplification in my book(video) since the perspective is not from a full timer, or even someone who rvs a lot. But, I also believe that it's very difficult to 'know' what you should 'know' when buying an rv, especially the higher up the rv type you go, and even more if you are new to rving. A Class A of any type will be a greater learning curve for anyone since they tend to have the most factory installed mechanicals, and we expect them to be mobile as well as liveable. Unlike a car or truck, whos chassis are primarily designed for traveling only, rvs are designed for both, and no car or truck factory builds an rv. Rvs are all 'custom', with possibly a slight exception for the Sprinter chassis type, whos interior is the main customization.
I do believe that rv manufacturers need to take more care in final QC and need more extensive final testing of all mechanicals in real world environments, but alas they many times leave this part up to their dealers.
No one should ever consider an rv, of any sort, as well as any boat, car, truck, mobile home, or similar, as an investment. They not only do not increase in value, as real estate may normally, but they immediately lose value the moment you purchase them. If you live in an rv full time, though, it is much less of a loss since it is your home.
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...Just out of curiosity ...Has anyone successfully got the dealer or manufacturer to buy back an RV?
Winnebago agreed to buy back the motorhome we have from the previous owner. Winnebago did some refurb, sold it to a broker, who sold it to the dealer we bought it from. When we bought it, Winnebago provided a ninety day warranty which we used to replace the transfer switch, and a solenoid for one of the jacks. It has been pretty much trouble free, except for a couple of issues caused by me. We have owned this motorhome for over six years.
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I have not had a manufacturer buy back an RV, but in my estimation in my case he would have been ahead to do so. He had to completely replace my coach body down to the frame. It cost him $36000.00 on a 5 year old coach. I ended up with nearly a brand new coach. It was a major manufacturer, possibly the largest and one of the oldest in the business. I am reasonably sure he got help from suppliers of the main coach body, but still he put a lot of money into a 5 year old coach which had depreciated by 50-60 %.
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I thought I would be the last person to buy a rv, you know that bad gas mileage.

I am very conservative with our money and copilot and me never made the big bucks, our current / recent retirement is not so big , some people pay more for their MH than what our total worth is, but I knew if possible I wanted to go places and see things.

I don't feel very many people go into a purchase of a motorhome blind, there are probably plenty that buy over their financial abilities, copilot and I bought older just over a year ago, 2000 Coachmen Mirada 34 MBS $13,000 we were not sure if we would like rv'ing we were always homebodies and if away from home for more than three days was reddy to get home.

So we bought conservative, nice older mh and if it turned out not for us loss would be minimal.

But now retired kids grown budget says we can on conservative basis, so here we go.

We love our motorhome and are currently upgrading the interior, new carpet just yesterday dual reclining couch on order, dining area will be redone also.

My approach to rv'ing now is throw out the mileage concept and approach it from a cost per trip, if I go in knowing what my cost are and if the money is there I just get behind the wheel sitting in my king seat armrests down and enjoy. Copilot and I a couple of months ago went on first big retirement trip, Hot air balloon fiesta Albuquerque. ...then Grand Canyon. AWESOME !!!! NUFF SAID.
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The trick is to not think of these as cars but as an house on wheels. Before you buy the RV buy a set of tools. I've never owned a house that didn't need something fixed. In fact it always something.

An RV will need more attention than a stationary house and if you're not prepared to do some of the work yourself, be prepared to shell out some bucks. It would be nice if a new unit doesn't have to be tweaked but they do.

Some say to buy used as most of the problems will have been fixed. Bunk.
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....Just out of curiosity ...Has anyone successfully got the dealer or manufacturer to buy back an RV?
Yes,
the POJ 5er we just got rid of ...

but did not use lemon laws (although applicable),
we used the merchantability argument and 'discussed' with the mfg...
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Value is in the eye of the owner. Some folks like to go to the casino in spite of knowing the odds against coming out ahead.

Some go the MH route. Things are a bit more predictable but there are benefits to be considered as well. Some say new, some say used. Ongoing debate with no clear winners because it is all about feelings.

Bottom Line: IMO it is your money. Choose to spend it how you wish. All I know that is if we leave it for the kids it will be gone like magic. Nuff said. We earned it, we will enjoy it; the kids will get used toys.
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...... But I thought it was a good informative video.

Just out of curiosity ...Has anyone successfully got the dealer or manufacturer to buy back an RV?
I watched the video completely through and looking back upon the more than 35 years that we have owned RVs I do have some comments to offer. The first is that the speaker clearly thinks that RV means motorhome. While some of what he has to say does apply to all sorts of RV, far from all of it does.

Second is that while everything he says has some degree of truth to it, the entire thing is very slanted to make the points he is pushing. People who are talented with words can use carefully selected facts to distort them and he does so very well. It is absolutely true that the RV industry has a record of poor quality control and most manufacturers do not put enough emphasis on that side of the process. Most of them also do have a warranty of only 1 year but there are exceptions and there are several manufacturers who will warranty repairs well beyond the stated time if the owner brings them back to the factory. Very few dealers go at all beyond the legal requirement and any are also guilty of employing RV techs who are poorly qualified or unqualified. But that isn't totally true either.

You do need to read the entire sales contract before you sign it. Since the dealers us a standard contract, I always insist that I be given a copy of the contract to take home with me for study and if I don't know what things mean I ask questions or consult an attorney.

It is very true what he says about the box of manuals and warranties as each appliance and added item of equipment has it's own warranty from the manufacturer but that isn't all bad. Because the RV builders all buy appliances from the same suppliers, if you do have a problem with an appliance like the refrigerator or water heater, you don't have to take the RV back to the selling dealer for service but you can get it repaired by any RV shop that sells and services the brand of appliance involved, meaning nearly all shops. That way you only have to go back to a dealer for the brand of RV you buy for things build by the RV manufacturer and not things like appliances, leveling jacks, or a host of other items.

He seems to be saying that all RV sales people are little better than crooks, and in my view that isn't all that far from wrong. Sales people are paid on commission because the dealer rewards them for making the most money possible for the dealership and not for honesty. They typically pay extra commission for selling the products or models that are difficult to move and that have a poor reputation. They are never a good source of advice or worthy of the customer's trust.

A professional inspection before purchase is always a good idea if buying used and even when new if the buyer isn't experienced at all in buying RVs. Better advice is never a bad thing. In addition, there is an organization that is out there to help the new RV buyer. It is a called the RV Consumer Group and they rate RVs and advise buyers. I have found them to be especially helpful to the first time RV buyer.
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