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Old 04-12-2015, 12:58 AM   #71
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Make what you consider a fair offer, after doing your research, and STAND YOUR GROUND. This principle works best with cash in hand. Dealers find it very difficult to pass up cash.
Did that to a Dodge dealership once. Walked in with a bank check filled out for what I wanted to spend above what I valued my trade at. Wouldnt you know it I walked out with a new set of keys and a great deal...

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Old 04-13-2015, 12:12 PM   #72
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Originally Posted by Tom N View Post
Make what you consider a fair offer, after doing your research, and STAND YOUR GROUND. This principle works best with cash in hand. Dealers find it very difficult to pass up cash.
Stand your ground I like that, but having Cash has not proven to be of benefit my past two times I have had the ability. First time was for a F150 pickup and the second was for a brand new Forest River Class C. No trade-ins, just Cash, and both times the experience was not what I expected. When you have cash, you have an advantage to a point; that is to say no finance commission or playing the game for trade in value ect..; and that is only if you do not fall for the extras like warranties, undercoating and the like. In the end, the person is a sales person trying to get you to commit to buying. My point is with cash, sales/dealerships only have one varible to manipulate unless you allow for more!!!

My current RV had a trade-in, finance options and suggested retail price to barter to whole sale affordability. In a nut shell, buying from a dealership has become a necessary pain in you know what. Alls I can say, is like most people, I have had a few good deals, but many more deals that were not. Do not care how old you get or how wise you think you are, there are still many obstacles out there to get through for a good deal.

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Old 04-13-2015, 10:52 PM   #73
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Don't understand dealers

I start to wonder - if many of us have had this experience, then why aren't we getting into the business and selling? . Seems that there is a market on this thread.

Some car dealers in our area simply advertise their lowest guaranteed price. I know folks that go to them for this very reason and have had a very good experience. Here is an example. http://www.wilsonvilletoyota.com

The challenge is that typically the price is one that puts everyone on an even playing field. Many like to brag to friends about how they beat the system. It's a trophy.. Rather than some getting messed over and others getting a great deal, all get largely the same deal. Yet the margin may be higher than what you want to pay and folks game the system by walking into other "hotbox" dealers with this as their starting price for a haggle.

Thus, dealers like this eventually give up the "one price" and go back to the old system.

I suggest that some of the challenges we face at dealers we bring upon ourselves, myself included.

On the price item that others shared, the past 3 vehicles I purchased I largely settled on price before walking in the door. It removes the emotion for me and I find that modern dealers have an internet salesrep that understands this. That works well for new as unless there is damage, one can predict exactly what condition it will be in. Used is a different story.

I can't afford new RVs and the depreciation is incredible. Condition is very important as many of you bring up. Private parties can be dishonest too. I've been tricked even after due diligence. For everything I sell, I share every flaw about my rig and price it accordingly. Buyers appreciate that and I sell quickly as a result.

Most cars I buy new. That works just fine, provided that you keep them at least 10 years. That's what I do and the next person gets an awesome used rig.

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