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RonNBama · 11-30-2012, 06:29 PM

Do you have to remove just the inside-the-coach framework to get the foggy window sections out or do you take the entire frame (inside and outside) from the coach body?

I was quoted "around $850" per window. Tech said they replaced the entire frame, glass and seals rather than trying to clean up and reseal the foggy components. Ouch$$$!

Also, considering my ability to putz-up even a simple repair task, I am searching for a shop or service center where I can drive in and get a turn-key job done. I have five windows in need of defogging and one of those is the door glass! I recall that there is a place somewhere in Arkansas that has a good reputation for this kind of repair. Anyone know it?

Not hi-jacking an instructional thread here. Just do not think I have the ability (or patience) that would be required. I'll work a couple of days a week at a burger joint and pay off the repair bill.

But not at $850 a window!

Fred Cooper · 11-30-2012, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RonNBama

Do you have to remove just the inside-the-coach framework to get the foggy window sections out or do you take the entire frame (inside and outside) from the coach body?
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You must remove the entire assembly. The inside is just a trim piece and the screws going through the trim piece go into the window assembly that is installed from the outside.

Fred

Fred Cooper · 11-30-2012, 07:15 PM

Just a "heads up" that my method does not work 100%. If you read my
write-up, I could not find the correct size spacer so I reused the old spacers.

I've since learned that the spacer of the glass contains a desiccant which acts as the absorber of the moisture in the airspace.

Last week we were traveling in central Florida where the nights were cool and days were fairly warm. I have a small amount of visible moisture in one of the windows I repaired. Under some conditions, it is not visible, but in the mornings there is visible moisture. If I try to repair another one, I will use new spacers.

Fred

bullheaded · 11-30-2012, 07:19 PM

Some of you guys should get on at Entegra....they have already changed 9 on my Cornerstone and have more that are bad since being there last month.

OldChief7155 · 12-01-2012, 06:35 AM

Ron,

Suncoast Designs in Hudson, FL just did two of mine for $434.00 out the door. They're about an hour north of Tampa, tried to pm you but you have it blocked.

RonNBama · 12-02-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by OldChief7155

Ron,

Suncoast Designs in Hudson, FL just did two of mine for $434.00 out the door. They're about an hour north of Tampa, tried to pm you but you have it blocked.

Thanks OldChief. I think I corrected that PM issue in my settings. Was wondering why I never received any PMs!

Gocoffeer · 12-03-2012, 08:23 AM

Fred Cooper has made an interesting point about using the old gaskets like that which we both have done. The Calcium Carbonate in the honey comb of the gasket can be dried out enough to be either neutral or slightly effective again. You can warm it with a hair dryer prior to reassembly and the moisture locked in the honey comb will begin to exit. Upon reassembly you will find that the RTV sealant will use some moisture to cure thus even helping bind some additional moisture. Warming the gasket...and RTV sealant are both helping solutions to the issue if you are like Fred and Craig, seeking the lowest wallet impact and the greatest problem resolve for your $.

two2go · 12-03-2012, 09:04 AM

The best dual pane windows have an inert gas like argon inside. Hard to do on the home workbench. Time will tell how well the home fixes work, but kudos for the effort. I am honestly considering replacing mine with single pane windows. Would I really lose that much in insulation or sound abatement?

Gocoffeer · 12-03-2012, 09:35 AM

Two2... The window repair...especially on an old coach buys you time to make future decisions. I do not consider this to be a new life for the windows ....rather an extension of its current life. Now the single pane idea will add an adventure in heating and cooling that you might need to think about. The double pane windows help keep the cooling and heating needs packaged in smaller BTU units that the generator can more easily handle. I struggled in my repair to make my front windows serviceable so I can use the money for my vacation fuel needs and drive the MH.

OldChief7155 · 12-10-2012, 07:19 PM

IMHO, you lose quite a bit of soundproofing and insulation properties. The one thing you will gain is LOTS of condensation to sop up.

Mr_D · 12-10-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bullheaded

Some of you guys should get on at Entegra....they have already changed 9 on my Cornerstone and have more that are bad since being there last month.

Have had two Dutch Stars, neither one has had a dual pane window go bad. This one is 10½ years old now and all the windows are still original.

wardy · 12-10-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_D

Have had two Dutch Stars, neither one has had a dual pane window go bad. This one is 10½ years old now and all the windows are still original.

Mr_D, You should feel lucky. My coach is at Suncoast Designers right now getting 5 windows fixed. Next to me sits a beautiful Mountain Aire, wow is that thing pretty, flush-mout windows and all... all getting fixed.

okgc · 12-10-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OldChief7155

IMHO, you lose quite a bit of soundproofing and insulation properties. The one thing you will gain is LOTS of condensation to sop up.

We went from a Fleetwood Bounder with dual pain windows to single pane in our Tiffin. These newer single panes are FAR superior to the our Bounder dual pain.

There is MUCH less condensation with the single panes.

Earlier we were fortunate and were able to find salvage replacements for the fogged windows in the Bounder.

Gocoffeer · 12-11-2012, 05:57 AM

I am reading that many of the MHers have had issue with window seals and leaking double pane gaskets. Will this discourage my desire for a sliding window that is useful....not in the least. I have double pane windows in my older coach and the only windows that make a difference in my adventure are the driver and passenger sliders. These I need to see thru for driving.....all the rest are for my pet family to see thru as I drive.....and they should be taking care of my soft drink needs instead of staring outside.