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Old 10-30-2017, 04:49 PM   #1
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Durable shelter

What is a durable shelter with sides , for about a 34' RV . ( Something not a garage or pole barn that takes a building permit hassle to make ) I live in Michigan snow country besides . Thinking maybe a humongous tarp but they really do not last very long , trap moisture in a bad way ? ideas , insights , recommendations ?
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I AM NOT SURE HOW YOUR BUILDING CODE WOULD WORK WITH BUT I GOT AWAY WITH THIS. I bought a metal shelter that normally is attached to the ground with stakes I had the bottom reinforced with 2" x 2" angle iron. I then welded wheels on the angle iron. It is a little difficult to move around but it was not considered a permanent building and did not require a permit. When in use for the RV I tied it to the RV wheels by running cross pieces and then drove the RV onto the cross pieces. Authorities were not happy but it worked.
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I AM NOT SURE HOW YOUR BUILDING CODE WOULD WORK WITH BUT I GOT AWAY WITH THIS. I bought a metal shelter that normally is attached to the ground with stakes I had the bottom reinforced with 2" x 2" angle iron. I then welded wheels on the angle iron. It is a little difficult to move around but it was not considered a permanent building and did not require a permit. When in use for the RV I tied it to the RV wheels by running cross pieces and then drove the RV onto the cross pieces. Authorities were not happy but it worked.


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Old 10-31-2017, 06:19 AM   #4
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I'm also in Michigan I wish I could put mine under something for the winter. I considered a cover but when I dropped it off at the storage facility I saw a couple hundred RVs of all shapes and sizes ready for the long winter and only 3 of them had a cover.

They'll survive and so will mine but I would still like a cover. We'll see.
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I looked in the All Steel Carports carport to cover mine, county said I needed a permit and there wasn't enough room for set back where I wanted it. Years ago you did not have to have permits for portable structures, now you due and your taxed on them.
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I looked in the All Steel Carports carport to cover mine, county said I needed a permit and there wasn't enough room for set back where I wanted it. Years ago you did not have to have permits for portable structures, now you due and your taxed on them.

Not sure it would be a portable structure with piers or footings supporting it. Are you just wanting to anchor it to a slab?



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So, what's going on with building permits in Michigan? A permit is needed down here in Texas but the one time fee is not a big deal. Yeah, property taxes will go up, but at the same time, our Itasca holds up much better than if it was parked out in the open. It's peace of mind for me knowing that when parked, i won't ever open it up to find that a leak developed and messed things up while i wasn't looking. The roof material, caulking, AC shroud, skylight, and other plastics hold up much better under cover. A big plus for me is that ours doesn't require a bath or wax job nearly as often.
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So, what's going on with building permits in Michigan? A permit is needed down here in Texas but the one time fee is not a big deal. Yeah, property taxes will go up, but at the same time, our Itasca holds up much better than if it was parked out in the open. It's peace of mind for me knowing that when parked, i won't ever open it up to find that a leak developed and messed things up while i wasn't looking. The roof material, caulking, AC shroud, skylight, and other plastics hold up much better under cover. A big plus for me is that ours doesn't require a bath or wax job nearly as often.
The people that control building codes and permits keep fabricating stupid rules & regs to intentionally screw-over the citizens , like NAZIs. Stuff built 20 years ago has new regs. that didn't exist then , that they will cause you huge hassles now , even destroying parts of your home for spite & fines / fees / money for their pockets . Things built long ago should be grandfathered but aren't , it all has to do with power & greed . I need to build RV shelter that isn't considered permanent ( w/ foundation ) , so to not let the NAZIs get their corrupt hooks in me .
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I wonder if a high tunnel structure like farmers use to protect crops might work
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So, what's going on with building permits in Michigan? A permit is needed down here in Texas but the one time fee is not a big deal. Yeah, property taxes will go up, but at the same time, our Itasca holds up much better than if it was parked out in the open. It's peace of mind for me knowing that when parked, i won't ever open it up to find that a leak developed and messed things up while i wasn't looking. The roof material, caulking, AC shroud, skylight, and other plastics hold up much better under cover. A big plus for me is that ours doesn't require a bath or wax job nearly as often.


It costs us one way or the other doesn't it.
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The people that control building codes and permits keep fabricating stupid rules & regs to intentionally screw-over the citizens , like NAZIs. Stuff built 20 years ago has new regs. that didn't exist then , that they will cause you huge hassles now , even destroying parts of your home for spite & fines / fees / money for their pockets . Things built long ago should be grandfathered but aren't , it all has to do with power & greed . I need to build RV shelter that isn't considered permanent ( w/ foundation ) , so to not let the NAZIs get their corrupt hooks in me .
I know there are some hassles from time to time. For the most part though, our local government pretty much just wants the money. Pay for the permit and, unless it's very obvious your build violates a local ordinance or someone makes a stink, you're good to go.
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I wonder if a high tunnel structure like farmers use to protect crops might work
That is what I'm leaning toward at the moment. There are ones ( about $2500.-- ) that are steel framed but with a thin polyethylene cover , which how few years will that hold up in freezing & windy conditions combined ? ( keep replacing expensive flimsy covers ?) So I figured for about that same price I can build a 2 X 4" X 12' pieces of a shelter with 12' metal roofing & siding panels - ($ 28.80 a piece = ~ $1324) , will be much stronger , especially with cross tension cables & ground anchors. ( room inside : 36' L X 12' H X 10' W door )


( the simple just - covers will also be winter-stiff & chafing the RV everywhere continually )
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I recently built a 27'x12' steel carport for mine. Bought from Menards with upgraded steel panels.
Poured a concrete beam foundation for the sides. If your going to do something do it right. If you can afford a motorhome then you can afford to protect it. My building permit was $75 and I listed the value of carport at $2500. Altogether cost about $4-5K but will last 20+ years. Foundation will last forever and can support a garage in future if desired.


Having a building code (if enforced) ensures your neighbors cheap-ass crap ideas doesn't end up in my backyard. And yes they did review my plans and inspect for setback. Codes are no problem for me, protects property values.
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The people that control building codes and permits keep fabricating stupid rules & regs to intentionally screw-over the citizens , like NAZIs. Stuff built 20 years ago has new regs. that didn't exist then , that they will cause you huge hassles now , even destroying parts of your home for spite & fines / fees / money for their pockets . Things built long ago should be grandfathered but aren't , it all has to do with power & greed . I need to build RV shelter that isn't considered permanent ( w/ foundation ) , so to not let the NAZIs get their corrupt hooks in me .
I can't even put up a 6' fence because I'm on a corner lot and the code views both front and side yards as a "front" yard. Which means I am limited to a 4' fence unless I seek a variance, which would be more hassle and money than it's worth.
What I really want is an 8' fence in the side yard but there's no way in hell they'll allow that.
If we were going to stay here I'd plant fast growing shrubs, but as soon as the wife retires we're out of Illinois like a shot.
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