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Old 06-29-2013, 09:56 AM   #15
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I was filling up the fuel tank on our new RV yesterday when I noticed some text on the gas cap. I turned it over and was surprised to find it read "NO E85 - NO E20". If even the newest engines can't handle these fuels I certainly wouldn't try it in a 13 year old engine.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:21 AM   #16
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Here in Northern Virginia, straight gas is not available, so we have had to run E5/E10 for many years. My newer cars have been OK with it, including our 1996 Acura and 2000 Ford, but is has been tough on the power equipment-- especially the plastic fuel tanks, rubber fuel lines, and carbs.

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Old 06-30-2013, 09:33 AM   #17
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Florida's Gov Scott recently signed a bill into law allowing sale of unleaded gasoline (ethanol free). Now we will wait and see who offers it in the state.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #18
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Did you ever take a pencil to regular vs ethanol regular?

If you get 20mpg with regular it takes 50 gallon to go 1000 miles.

If you get 18mpg with ethanol regular it takes 55.6 gallons to go 1000 miles.

With 10% ethanol to a gallon it takes 50 gallons of gas (55.6 x .90 = 50.4) to go 1000 miles plus 5 gallons of ethanol.

This saves oil HOW? Should we not be a little unhappy about this?
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And who should we thank for this mess?
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And who should we thank for this mess?
corn subsidies
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Old 06-30-2013, 04:38 PM   #21
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Florida's Gov Scott recently signed a bill into law allowing sale of unleaded gasoline (ethanol free). Now we will wait and see who offers it in the state.
We have 411 stations in Florida offering ethanol free gasoline...
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
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We have 411 stations in Florida offering ethanol free gasoline...
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

That is a pretty good list....I was aware of some of the Marinas in this area and one gas station that had quit selling it awhile back. Had actually bought some in the keys last Fall $$$$$$$

I check some of these local places before we take our trip north next month.
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Saw on local Fl TV last night some guy wants to invest $500m in a E85 facility in Florida, lots of high pay jobs.

Now Gov Scott is in a spot as Fl is deemed Ethanol unfriendly.
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It's kind of like the Fluoride debate, 1PPM was the ideal dosage. but now the CDC and the ADA say's .7 PPM because of floridosis in babies. Just a bad idea, period!
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I seems to me that if it is the government's idea, it is probably a bad idea. I ran engine test labs for most of my career. What I can tell you is that alcohol in motorfuel is a bad idea and it really does not help anything anywhere except for campaign contributions. I have a 40yo coach and you would not believe what I have had to do to keep it from leaking fuel.

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I seems to me that if it is the government's idea, it is probably a bad idea. I ran engine test labs for most of my career. What I can tell you is that alcohol in motorfuel is a bad idea and it really does not help anything anywhere except for campaign contributions. I have a 40yo coach and you would not believe what I have had to do to keep it from leaking fuel.

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Same here - our is 38. I have to replace ALL fuel lines every year or so, which mean an engine pull to get to the tank feed lines - not fun at all. And I get %10 lower MPG as an added bonus!

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Same here - our is 38. I have to replace ALL fuel lines every year or so, which mean an engine pull to get to the tank feed lines - not fun at all. And I get %10 lower MPG as an added bonus!

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Randy,

Allow me to be of some assistance here. If you replace the rubber lines with either J30-R9 (for fuel injection) or J30-R14 for low pressure, the flexible lines will last at least three years (that is what mine are now). If you replace all the rubber you can with steel or better yet Polyarmuor then you will have even fewer problems.

Don't even consider trying to survive on E-15 when the government forces it on us. It will eat a diecast carburetor or fuel pump.

You need to bookmark Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada.

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