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12-23-2017, 08:34 PM
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#29
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
A physical main breaker lockout is code compliant in most places. Instead of a transfer switch.
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A transfer switch is required by the National Electric Code for any connection of power to a home. This is required in all states.
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12-23-2017, 08:54 PM
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#30
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimnkee
A transfer switch is required by the National Electric Code for any connection of power to a home. This is required in all states.
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Ok... Good to know. Thanks.
I guess then the many available from panel manufacturers and third party companies cannot be used anywhere in the USA, correct?
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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12-24-2017, 10:57 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
The OP has a 240 ( two hundred & forty ) volt 12,000 watt generator in his MH...A standard 240 volt, 50 amp receptacle in a compartment near the generator is all the modifications the MH would need. That would be used to connect up to the proper wiring and transfer switch in the house.
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And when utility power fails when the RV's not home? What then?
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12-24-2017, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fottip
And when utility power fails when the RV's not home? What then?
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He throws out the sour milk ?
I suppose only he can answer that.
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12-24-2017, 01:14 PM
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#33
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Location: E WA or S TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz
Ok... Good to know. Thanks.
I guess then the many available from panel manufacturers and third party companies cannot be used anywhere in the USA, correct?
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They may be used to lockout the power when doing maintenance of additions.
Lock & Tag for SAFETY
But not for isolating a generator.
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12-24-2017, 04:18 PM
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#34
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
He throws out the sour milk ? I suppose only he can answer that.
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Yeah, the "sour milk", along with potentially hundreds of dollars of the other stuff that spoiled, that you obviously are choosing to ignore to minimize the issue, assuming the usual way that I and most other people normally use refrigerators and freezers.
Look - risk aversion is personal; there's no "right or wrong". And, at the end of the day, each of us has our own priorities - it's your money, and your food.
I'm out of here - this is to the point of flogging a dead horse.
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12-24-2017, 07:28 PM
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#35
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Senior Member
American Coach Owners Club
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I think this is what vsheetz is referring to for the manual transfer. Perfectly legal.
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12-24-2017, 07:36 PM
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#36
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhudson
I think this is what vsheetz is referring to for the manual transfer. Perfectly legal. Attachment 186731
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Yes, exactly... Thanks.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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12-24-2017, 07:55 PM
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#37
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
The specs say that the 12.5 Onan is 240 volts.
240 volts is single " split " phase power.
Normal 240 volt appliances will run on it.
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Exactly! My dryer is a 240 volt unit so I have to be on 50 amp shore power or run the generator.
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12-24-2017, 07:57 PM
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#38
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhudson
I think this is what vsheetz is referring to for the manual transfer. Perfectly legal. Attachment 186731
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Not here, power company requires automatic ones.
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12-24-2017, 10:59 PM
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#39
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D
Not here, power company requires automatic ones.
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That why I originally commented 'most places' allow, not 'all' allow. Can vary by local authority.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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12-25-2017, 07:52 AM
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#40
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Senior Member
American Coach Owners Club
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Perfectly legal “HERE” , 1 county in 1 of the 50 states.
There I fixed it.
Merry Christmas everyone.
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12-26-2017, 01:03 PM
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#41
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimnkee
A transfer switch is required by the National Electric Code for any connection of power to a home. This is required in all states.
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Indiana requires a disconnect switch at minimum, according to REMC and Duke Energy.
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12-26-2017, 02:12 PM
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#42
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Senior Member
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Location: Rochester NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhudson
I think this is what vsheetz is referring to for the manual transfer. Perfectly legal. Attachment 186731
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The manual transfer switch in mhudson's post is perfectly legal according to the National Electric Code. No requirement that it be 'automatic' per NEC. It is a failsafe solution.
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'07 Winnebago Journey 34H - CAT C7, Koni's, MCU's, SS Bell Crank, Safe-T-Plus
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