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Old 04-30-2014, 03:04 PM   #1
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Entry Level Coach "saying"

When someone says your coach is nice for an "entry level coach" .... don't they realize that by saying that - they are really saying CHEAP coach. At least that is the way it comes across to me. There are different price points for different things - including cars and houses. Not everyone can or is willing to cough up $1 million plus for a MH. That doesn't mean that the one you purchased for $100,000 or less is a "cheap" coach. Rant over ... am I wrong here?
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:10 PM   #2
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I don't think you're wrong, but I also don't worry about it. People that make statements like that are oblivious to what they sound like. I just smile and move on. I don't argue, don't correct, just let it go. I'm the happier for it.
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I don't think you're wrong, but I also don't worry about it. People that make statements like that are oblivious to what they sound like. I just smile and move on. I don't argue, don't correct, just let it go. I'm the happier for it.
X2 A very wise approach.

It's just like some bozo telling a lady that she's very attractive... for her age.

However, there are times when using that term is appropriate. Lot's of folks ask question on here about this feature or that feature on coaches and often times the responses are along the line of... "those features aren't usually found on entry level coaches". IMHO that's a very objective and informative context to use the term.

We had just bought our new 07 Itasca 40DP when we decided to spend the winter near Palm Springs, California at an extremely upscale RV resort where the sites were privately owned and developed. We were very proud "parents" and loved our new coach, which had cost us nearly a quarter million bucks... but we were surrounded by Newells, Marathons, etc. One of the streets in the resort was even named Newell ave and was full of them!

We were invited by the local (owners) to a New Year's Eve party on their patio. While making small talk in a group of owners, we were asked what type of rig we had. When we told them, it seemed to get a bit quiet and one lady said ... "Oh, that's OK. We started with a Winnebago too".

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I don't think you're wrong, but I also don't worry about it. People that make statements like that are oblivious to what they sound like. I just smile and move on. I don't argue, don't correct, just let it go. I'm the happier for it.

You are right, let it go ... I just get a bit ticked when I see someone comment on the forums that "brand x is a decent "entry level" whatever". And I'm seeing it more and more ... or maybe I'm just noticing it more and more. I'll let it go ....
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I'd rather have my "entry level" coach and be debt free.
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:28 PM   #7
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I just get a bit ticked when I see someone comment on the forums that "brand x is a decent "entry level" whatever". And I'm seeing it more and more ... or maybe I'm just noticing it more and more. I'll let it go ....
I would be cautious about taking offense to this term being used on the forum. "Entry Level" really is an RV term that provides many of us with a good understanding of what to expect in terms of construction, equipment, features, etc. The forum is a place where a lot of technology and construction details are discussed so the term can often times be useful in the forum context.

IMHO, it's much different than having someone casually make the comment to your face.

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I would be cautious about taking offense to this term being used on the forum. "Entry Level" really is an RV term that provides many of us with a good understanding of what to expect in terms of construction, equipment, features, etc. The forum is a place where a lot of technology and construction details are discussed so the term can often times be useful in the forum context.



IMHO, it's much different than having someone casually make the comment to your face.



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Very good "take" on the term and the situations and contexts in which it's used.

On these forums, particularly when a newby is asking a question and perhaps comparing different coaches, it can be a form of short hand in describing the relative merits of a coach. In this context it's inoffensive and intended to be helpful instruction. "Higher or lower on the food chain" is also used in this manner.

To use the term when commenting on an owners coach in a social situation is pretty condescending. Just chalk it up to cluelessness.


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When someone says your coach is nice for an "entry level coach" .... don't they realize that by saying that - they are really saying CHEAP coach. At least that is the way it comes across to me. There are different price points for different things - including cars and houses. Not everyone can or is willing to cough up $1 million plus for a MH. That doesn't mean that the one you purchased for $100,000 or less is a "cheap" coach. Rant over ... am I wrong here?
How do you think we gasser owners feel? We love our Bounder, and feel blessed that we can afford to blow over $100k on a toy. Remember what Eleanor Roosevelt so eloquently said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

Some people have no check valve on their superiority complex. I just roll my eyes and move along.
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I'd have to agree that during discussions in the forum if you use terms such as entry level, mid-level price point, luxury, etc, it is descriptive and avoids mentioning specific coaches which in turn pushes way too many hot buttons.

If you look at it as an indication of price level you chose to buy into and only as a descriptor, then it is easier to not be offended. I know at least two multimillionaires that are driving a $120k gasser and a $65k fifth wheel...because it fits what they wanted. And my guess is there are more than a few out there driving a Newell or a Prevost that wish they weren't in so deep.
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I totally agree with the original post. I experienced this very comment shortly after we purchased our Gulfstream MH. I had a person tell me my MH was a "low end" one. The bottom line is my wife and I are completely happy with our purchase and I'm quite sure we get just as much enjoyment on our trips as the person who made the comment gets from his $500k rig
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We toured the WBGO factory and $100,000 rigs were being built on the same line as the $400,000 rigs. I don't want a rig that long even if I could afford one. Actually I could afford one but choose not to. You can also bet that all rigs have to be repaired because of less than perfect quality.

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How do you think we gasser owners feel? We love our Bounder, and feel blessed that we can afford to blow over $100k on a toy. Remember what Eleanor Roosevelt so eloquently said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

Some people have no check valve on their superiority complex. I just roll my eyes and move along.
Cute house= small and the list goes on. I have had the same said of our MH being entry level, and it may be. I took it as someone with an inferiority complex that needed to feel superior. Thanks Sarah for the Roosevelt quote reminder. It has been a favorite of mine for years.
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