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Old 09-08-2014, 07:44 PM   #1
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Frameless Windows

What's everyone's take on the current model years only having frameless windows? Anybody beside me hate them? They are lovely to look at from the outside, but that ends the positive side of them. I saw a 2015 Entegra the other day that only has the bottoms of the windows tipping out, but I'm "lucky" because the ones on my coach crank out in such a way that the entire window cracks open. What that means is that right now it's 87 degrees inside, with the 3 exhaust fans on, even though it's cool and breezy outside! In order to breathe we have to out on the ACs. If you're less than full timing you might not see that as a problem, but it is. I asked a dealer if there are any manufacturers still using sliders, and he said there are not. Then if you have windows only on one side like me, you will surely suffer. Any opinions?
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While I cannot answer your question from personal experience, I have wondered how they do in terms of providing ventilation. I have seen many new coaches with those windows and agree they look nice. However we really like the standard RV windows that open horizontally. With our Fantastic fans running, we can really move some nice air in the windows.

My guess is while they look sleek the real reason manufacturers use them is they cost less than framed windows.
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Old 09-08-2014, 08:26 PM   #3
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Right now our coach seems to be OK. We were out at 80 on the weekend and only opened the windows (no need for the fans). Time will tell when we get to the warm weather.
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:05 AM   #4
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Our friends have the frame less windows on their Fiver, they hate them. Inadequate ventilation due the small opening compared to conventional sliding windows.

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We don't like them, but for a different reason. They do look nice but so far I haven't figured out how to mount our Kitty Kondo's in a way that allows the cats to go in and out through a cat door. On the side sliding ones we have now it's not a problem.
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There is only one "plus" that I know of. Rain - if you live in an area with lots of rain they would be better. It is just another one of those "look what great improvements we made" when in reality they are cheaper. 2015 Challengers are touted as having ability to fill gas from both sides - but the rear end gas fill means you will have to be very selective in the gas stations you use.
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Are the frameless windows dual pane?

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Are the frameless windows dual pane?

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According to on line adds, Yes.

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Frameless Windows

So I wonder if we with framed windows will face challenges finding replacements in the future. Of course I already have the challenge of having double pane trapezoid shaped tinted windows. .

Personally, I love how the fantastic fan and cracking open the sliders makes for excellent airflow.
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So I wonder if we with framed windows will face challenges finding replacements in the future. Of course I already have the challenge of having double pane trapezoid shaped tinted windows. .

Personally, I love how the fantastic fan and cracking open the sliders makes for excellent airflow.
Even if you could not find replacements, as long as your frames are still usable there are plenty of places to get replacement glass. When we recently had RV Fog Doctor repair our fogged double pane windows, they indicated they could replace the glass if necessary (there was a several day wait for the tempered glass required in vehicles).
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Am I the only one that misses the old jealousy window design all RVs had 30 years ago?
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Am I the only one that misses the old jealousy window design all RVs had 30 years ago?
Let's see;
Advantages: full window ventilation
Disadvantages: Poor insulators
Easy to break into
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So, No
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