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Old 02-03-2016, 06:50 PM   #29
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I find it amazing how fuel prices very from state to state. And the spread between reg and diesel. Right now diesel in Alaska is cheaper than reg. ? figure that one out.

Ever since the fall of the price of oil, gas prices sometimes change multiple times a day (up and down). I'll get a text on my phone from Gasbuddy's that the price of gas is going up 20 cents. two stations across the street from each other, one goes up 20 cents, while the other holds tight. A few hours later, the station that raised his price, lowers it again back to the same price.

I think we're way over due for a refinery malfunction....I just feel it coming...Can't be that there are any hurricanes forming. How about "Shut down for normal maintenance".
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Way to depressing to read this thread. Unfortunately in our immediate area we are served by 3 distributors. Naturally they are not working together to keep prices high. In my county in VT the average price is about $1.99. If we get outside of Chittenden county the price easily drops by 20 a gallon. Still higher than some of you are paying. The only good thing is a year ago it was $2.26 and had reached $2.60 at mid year.

Our annual pilgrimage to the race at Loudon is about a 360 mile trip and cost around $130. At the current price it'll be down to about $100.

DARN you guys with sub $1.50 prices !!!
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$2.39 to $2.85 in the greater SF Bay Area. It is what it is.
As low as $2.17 in San Leandro.
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In San Antonio, TX, this afternoon:
• Diesel at $1.899
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There are a few reasons that prices are so low, but the main one is demand is down. China says they are transforming from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. Add the fact that the actual cost of oil is very low, so producers are still making money at $30 a barrel. They have bills to pay so they pump. The Saudi royal family is basically paying their people not to revolt! With the soft world-wide economy oil prices could stay low for the next 3-4 years.
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I do understand why prices are different in different areas .... to a degree. Other than distributors being thieves why would there be a difference of almost 30 in less than 50 miles. State tax is the same all over the state. Fed tax is the same all over the state. Shipping costs can be different but not 30 per gallon within 50 miles.

Don't mean to try and change the direction of the thread. Just irked at why we pay some of the higher prices in the country and just a few miles away is average or below !!!
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On the news this morning, I see Shell oil is laying off thousands of workers. About 10,000 families needing financial help. Low fuel prices are good within reason. I have often said gasoline should not be lower than $2.00 per gallon.
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I see a little "follow me" game being played. Two stations across the street from each other or down the street. One raises his price mysteriously by 25 or 30 cents, expecting his across the street neighbor stations to follow suit. Problem is they didn't bite, 4 hours later he lowers it back down. Years ago gas prices stayed the same for weeks. Some stations now change them once or twice a day.

Our local grocery chain has a fuel rewards program and their own gas stations. (GetGo) Besides getting $3 of free gas for every $50 spent on groceries including gift cards to all the popular places (Home Depot, Loews, Best Buy, Amazon, Bob Evens....) Well every few weeks they double it to $12 of free gas per $100 spent. We average $1000 to $1200 of free gas a year. We have so much saved up now, I had to pour a 5 gallon gas can into the neighbors tank before they expired (2-3 months after you earned the free gas you have to use it or you lose it....)
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On the news this morning, I see Shell oil is laying off thousands of workers. About 10,000 families needing financial help. Low fuel prices are good within reason. I have often said gasoline should not be lower than $2.00 per gallon.
Some rumors say that the middle east is saturating the market so that US oil interests can no longer afford to pump and refine our own oil. They put our companies into a non profit situation, they then go out of business and the price of oil will rise again. I believe, while we may be enjoying the current prices, we are losing the long term fight.
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Some rumors say that the middle east is saturating the market so that US oil interests can no longer afford to pump and refine our own oil. They put our companies into a non profit situation, they then go out of business and the price of oil will rise again. I believe, while we may be enjoying the current prices, we are losing the long term fight.
Gas prices aren't going up anytime soon.

As previously stated, the Saudi's are paying their people not to revolt. They need to produce no matter what the price of oil is. They have a lot of cash but are burning through it pretty fast.

Iran is getting out of the black market and into the real game.

All of the ME and OPEC countries need oil income to keep their economies running and their people happy.

While there won't be any new drilling going on in the US, the wells that were drilled recently are producing. The oil isn't selling for $75 / bbl, but $30 / bbl is paying some of the bills. It doesn't cost much to produce once the up front costs are sunk.

As for the future? Once the price gets back up to $60 - $70 shale comes back into the picture.

Rinse and repeat.
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As for the future? Once the price gets back up to $60 - $70 shale comes back into the picture.

Rinse and repeat.
Actually, some economists and Washington DC think tankers are saying that due to the continued increase in electric and hybrid vehicle popularity and solar power generation there will come a point where diesel and gasoline may retail below $0.50/gallon. 1970's prices!
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Some rumors say that the middle east is saturating the market so that US oil interests can no longer afford to pump and refine our own oil. They put our companies into a non profit situation, they then go out of business and the price of oil will rise again. I believe, while we may be enjoying the current prices, we are losing the long term fight.
The source of oil definitely changes with the price, but there are plenty of cheap sources of oil in the US, Canada and Mexico. The expensive oil is in places like the Eagle Ford and Barnett shale fields in Texas or Bakken fields in North Dakora where fracking is required. The rig counts are way down in those areas.

Oil prices will reverse when demand rises or prices fall below the marginal price of a barrel of oil. Weak as it is, the US economy is much better off than most of the rest of the world so it's hard to see where the demand will come from.
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