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Old 07-27-2015, 10:54 AM   #43
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For motorized RV's, since 2008 RVIA has settled on the term OCCC

"Occupant and Cargo Carry Capacity"
GVWR minus UVW and full LP gas weight

Weighing Glossary

What I haven't seen mentioned here so far is the basic driver's license restriction of 26,000lb GVWR imposed in many states. Ford knows this and places their F53's max available GVWR at that point. Of course GCWR is 30,000lb.

Go over 26,000lb in many states, and you "should" be getting a new driver's license class.
CA is NOT one of these states - making the cut-off on the basic license for "Any Housecar" at 40' (weight is not a consideration).

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Old 07-27-2015, 11:32 AM   #44
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Cargo Carrying Capacity (CCC) - Of course......


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Old 07-27-2015, 12:57 PM   #45
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:35 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Filthy-Beast View Post
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is CCC. We are planning to go full time in a year or two. In trying to decide between the two I see huge CCC for the DP but numbers that are almost half for gas. Has CCC been an issue for any of the gas fulltimers?
My gasser is rated at 26,000 lbs fully loaded.(GVCW) Curb weight with full fuel, propane & water tanks and all my gear for a race weekend is 21,000. Leaves me 5,000 lbs for my trailer (which weighs in at 3900lbs loaded)

If I were full timing with no trailer... Id be hard pressed to load 5000 lbs of cargo without it being a hoarder problem.

The other thing is... if youre full timing, I would think the objective would be to travel to areas you can explore for a couple of weeks at a time with out the hassle of hauling material things around.
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I see you hang out with the gang on the north side of the tracks.
Was on the south side of the tracks for years!
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The other thing is... if youre full timing, I would think the objective would be to travel to areas you can explore for a couple of weeks at a time with out the hassle of hauling material things around.
If your only house is the MH you'd have a tendency to carry a bit more than you do for weekend trips. After all, you need some place to put all the stuff the DW buys while exploring
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Also not all DP's ride the same when I bought the rev we test drove 2 other new DP's and they rode like a horse buggy down a concrete hwy.
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If money was no object, we would all have a Prevost custom coach and probably a driver. So the question really boils down to what we can afford and our use of the vehicle. In our case we run to the beach or Florida more than the mountains. When we travel to Florida we often pass all types of motor homes. Sure some fly by me like I am sitting still but many are under the speed limit diesel & gas alike. Having made the trip across country with a workhorse gas motor home towing, there were times in Montana, Idaho and Washington that I wished I had a diesel but more so better brakes. But we made the trip just fine and had a great vacation. No question the diesels have more power and a better ride but are also on average 100k more to purchase than a gas. Someone will immediately tell us what a deal they got but for most of us the diesel is more expensive to maintain. I have heard stories like $500 for an oil change. So after rambling on it really boils down to your individual needs and your pocketbook.
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Originally Posted by BrianGlenn View Post
What is CCC? Can someone help me out? Might just be me that is unfamiliar with this acronym. Capital Carrying Cost? ie cost to finance?


Cargo Carrying Capacity. The difference between what the RV weighs and what it is capable of weighing (GVWR).

For most people it's not really an issue but some folks want to carry everything, including the kitchen sink, and every tool they own, with them.
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When I started shopping I quickly decided on a gasser. Not only is the acquisition cost much less but all other expenses are as well. As stated you have to decide how you are going to use it. Wife is still working so very few long distance trips for us. Diesels are more expensive by every measure. Add in the extra systems such as the air bags etc and you can spend a lot money very quickly.

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