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07-24-2015, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Sidewinder4
This discussion in the end equates to everyone being right. DP'ers IMOP are a choice not a have to do. I have driven gas and diesel, but for my 6' 6", 280 lbs I finally found comfort, power, floor plan, and an engine designed to go many miles. My perception (not a fact) for me only is: the diesel is going to give me the longevity I want for retirement.
My diesel pusher is not better than a gasser. My two story brick home is not better than a single story home, again just my choice.
We all have a single bond and that is the lifestyle of RV’ing. I enjoy the company at parks/campgrounds whether you have a tent or motorhome. Too many people want a line in the sand for owning a Gas or Diesel; “Why”. The issue is what RV fits your lifestyle and needs; all RV’s have pros and cons. All people for the most part are cool that get out and do something fun outdoors and makes the best of Time Off, Vacation or Retirement. Again who cares about gas or diesel collectively!!!
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07-24-2015, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: High up in Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidewinder4
This discussion in the end equates to everyone being right. DP'ers IMOP are a choice not a have to do. I have driven gas and diesel, but for my 6' 6", 280 lbs I finally found comfort, power, floor plan, and an engine designed to go many miles. My perception (not a fact) for me only is: the diesel is going to give me the longevity I want for retirement.
My diesel pusher is not better than a gasser. My two story brick home is not better than a single story home, again just my choice.
We all have a single bond and that is the lifestyle of RV’ing. I enjoy the company at parks/campgrounds whether you have a tent or motorhome. Too many people want a line in the sand for owning a Gas or Diesel; “Why”. The issue is what RV fits your lifestyle and needs; all RV’s have pros and cons. All people for the most part are cool that get out and do something fun outdoors and makes the best of Time Off, Vacation or Retirement. Again who cares about gas or diesel collectively!!!
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Well said. It gets old reading these threads about what is better all the time.
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07-24-2015, 01:24 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: In a lawnchair
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidewinder4
This discussion in the end equates to everyone being right. DP'ers IMOP are a choice not a have to do. I have driven gas and diesel, but for my 6' 6", 280 lbs I finally found comfort, power, floor plan, and an engine designed to go many miles. My perception (not a fact) for me only is: the diesel is going to give me the longevity I want for retirement.
My diesel pusher is not better than a gasser. My two story brick home is not better than a single story home, again just my choice.
We all have a single bond and that is the lifestyle of RV’ing. I enjoy the company at parks/campgrounds whether you have a tent or motorhome. Too many people want a line in the sand for owning a Gas or Diesel; “Why”. The issue is what RV fits your lifestyle and needs; all RV’s have pros and cons. All people for the most part are cool that get out and do something fun outdoors and makes the best of Time Off, Vacation or Retirement. Again who cares about gas or diesel collectively!!!
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07-24-2015, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jwmaustin
I've learned always agree with Sarah!
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07-24-2015, 01:45 PM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Chicago Area
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Originally Posted by Greatscot
One thing to remember. In a DP when you are driving, the noise (engine) is in the back. When you sleep, the noise ( generator) is in the front. In other words, the noise is always at the opposite end of the coach from where you are. In a gasser, you are always on top of the noise.
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Bought my first RV last fall and had to deal with the same question. What resonated with me was what Greatscot said above. That and the ride on airbags felt better - to me. Good luck and I agree with what many have said - you can't go wrong with making decisions that fit you best.
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07-24-2015, 01:54 PM
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Senior Member
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It all comes down to what you want and can afford. We liked the quieter ride and more power of the diesel. Plus in the club we belonged to there were 12 motorhomes, one was a Prevost, one was a Foretravel (my parents) and 6 were Newmars. We liked their quality and could afford the DP so we got it.
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07-24-2015, 01:59 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mr_D
It all comes down to what you want and can afford. We liked the quieter ride and more power of the diesel. Plus in the club we belonged to there were 12 motorhomes, one was a Prevost, one was a Foretravel (my parents) and 6 were Newmars. We liked their quality and could afford the DP so we got it.
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I see you hang out with the gang on the north side of the tracks.
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07-25-2015, 11:19 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Brooklyn MI
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What kind of camping, full time, snow bird, just some weekends? How much do you want to spend? How big of a unit do you want? Do you want to tow something? Lots of different questions will help answer your question.
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07-25-2015, 12:27 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by Sidewinder4
This discussion in the end equates to everyone being right.
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say wah??? That makes as much sense as "no score" kids games.
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07-26-2015, 04:48 AM
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It is a no score kids game once one understands the tradeoff's. ;-)
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07-27-2015, 08:50 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Chicago Area
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned is CCC. We are planning to go full time in a year or two. In trying to decide between the two I see huge CCC for the DP but numbers that are almost half for gas. Has CCC been an issue for any of the gas fulltimers?
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07-27-2015, 10:10 AM
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Country Coach Owners Club
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Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Filthy-Beast
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is CCC. We are planning to go full time in a year or two. In trying to decide between the two I see huge CCC for the DP but numbers that are almost half for gas. Has CCC been an issue for any of the gas fulltimers?
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What is CCC? Can someone help me out? Might just be me that is unfamiliar with this acronym. Capital Carrying Cost? ie cost to finance?
Brian
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07-27-2015, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianGlenn
What is CCC? Can someone help me out? Might just be me that is unfamiliar with this acronym. Capital Carrying Cost? ie cost to finance?
Brian
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CCC is one of a number of industry formulas to compute the cargo capacity of a coach. You will also see NCC. They are arrived at in different ways.
CCC takes the weight of a "representative" coach with full drive train fluids, full fresh water tank and empty holding tanks. I believe it includes full LP tank and full fuel tank. It adds 164 pounds for each "sleeping position" subtract that number from the GVWR of the coach in question and you have the approx theoretical cargo capacity. NCC uses a somewhat different formula.
It's been awhile since I used this so I may not have it exact.
Steve Ownby
Full time since '07
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07-27-2015, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Nor'easters Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: Freedom, NH
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CCC= Cargo Carrying Capacity, or how much stuff can you haul, including people, clothes, food, pots and pans, water, sewage, etc.
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