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DriVer · 11-02-2003, 03:51 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by djohn:
This is giving me a headache!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Go with the Monroe RV Magnums. I plan on getting the rear shocks in the spring as the fronts have improved our ride quite remarkably. For the money I'd say the Monroes are a good solution, and I can recommend these units without reservation.

If you have deep pockets you could choose to get the Konis adjustable shocks however they do cost almost twice as much. By the way about being adjustable, you have to remove the shocks from the motorhome, compress the units and then set the adjustment. So it's adjustable but not that easily. The benefit of these shocks is that you can ultimately dial-in your preferences if you believe that the ride is too mushy or harsh. If you buy your Konis from the right vendor, you could ask the them to initially preset the adjustment to the gross axle weight ratings of your motorhome.

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[This message was edited by DriVer on Mon November 03 2003 at 05:50 AM.]

YNBOB · 11-04-2003, 03:35 PM

Re Porpoise & shocks. We have replaced the OEM shocks on our 2001 NRV Dolphin (F53 20500 lbs) with Bilsteins. NO change.

How can a adding a Unified Tow Brake to your toad stop the motorhome and toad in a shorter distance than the motorhome alone? See www.usgear.com/utb_summary.htm for their diagram

DriVer · 11-05-2003, 02:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by George Miklas:
Have you added a Davis TruTrac Bar? That seemed to pretty much fix the Porpoise for me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>George, I believe that your application of the Davis bar on your motorhome is a component of the Mor-Ryde system when used together along with a set of good shocks will greatly reduce the porpoising that owners experience on the F53.

The Davis by itself will do little to reduce the effect of porpoising because that's not what it does. The Davis reduces the tendency for the front end to yaw and does little to address pitch. I speak from experience on my application because with the Davis alone I still had a porpoising problem.

Once I installed the Monroe RV Magnums the porpoising went away. The only down side is a slightly harsh ride on rough surfaces however the built in ride quality of the W Series is not diminished on normal roads. The upside to the occasional harsh ride is that the motorhome tracks well across whatever road irregularity presents itself. So equipped a good after market system gives the driver a reassuring feel of being in control.

YNBOB's closing statement wasn't a question but rather an opening to see more information about the system by clicking on the link he provided.

Thanks for providing additional incite about the Unified Tow Brake.

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LongGone · 11-05-2003, 06:33 PM

Driver,
Thanks for for your thorough, and as usual, very informative response.

For a newbie like me, the input from all of the people on this forum helps people like me knoe what's "normal" and what's something that can be improved.

We're leaving tomorrow on a short little trip, but when we get back we're going to start tackling those handling problems, starting with new shocks.
Thanks

Pat, Betty and our Shepherd Sasha
'03 Winnebago Adventurer 33V w/Workhorse
'02 Jeep Liberty

ISLAPP · 11-06-2003, 04:47 AM

Driver,
I tried sending you an email and it said it was undeliverable.
Mike

2003.25 F350 SC DRW LB FX4 V10 4.30axle,'03 Jayco Designer 31RLS fiver.

YNBOB · 11-06-2003, 04:14 PM

George: I pass your spring shop in Y-Town going to work every day. Hopefully I won't have to use them. I have not added a Davis tru trac. Good news is that our Dolphin does not porpoise!

wkjohnsonb · 11-06-2003, 06:07 PM

Want to thank all that have addressed the "porpoise" topic.

Called my local Workhorse service agent yesterday and by 11:00 am today (Thurs.) had four new Monroe Gas - Magnum RV shocks on my rig. Workhorse stood behind the replacements. Only a short drive home, with the new shocks, but I could definitly feel the difference in the ride. My wife (white knuckler) commented that it was a smoother ride with less bouncing and swaying on corners. As others have stated, it is nice to have a forum such as this, particularly for a new person to RVing. Thanks.

W&K
2003 35U Adventurer
Workhorse 8.1--22.5 tires
Honda Accord Toad
Brake Buddy

djohn · 11-07-2003, 06:46 AM

I had a rather interesting conversation with a Workhorse rep today. After authorizing the replacement front shocks only, I told him I understood I would be paying for rear shocks myself. His reply was to recommend AGAINST the rear shocks, sayingit affected the ride too much and that he has seen customers bring the coach back to get the originals reinstalled.

Anybody have experience to support or refute this? Thanks in advance

Dick & Susan Johnson
2003 Mountain Aire 3778 W-22
1996 Saturn Pusher

mrsr71 · 11-07-2003, 08:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by wkjohnsonb:
Called my local Workhorse service agent yesterday and by 11:00 am today (Thurs.) had four new Monroe Gas - Magnum RV shocks on my rig.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

W&K,

I will probably be doing the same thing. If I may be so bold to ask, what specifically did you request of the Workhorse rep to accomplish the replacement?

(I tried to e-mail you off-line but you do not have an e-maill address listed)

Dan

2004 33V Adventurer
Toad - Still Deciding??
2003 Harley Davidson FXDWG

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CAD-Man · 11-07-2003, 09:09 AM

djohn,
I replaced all 4 shocks with Konis and I did not see any problem with replacing the rear shocks. In no way do I want either front or rear OEM shocks back on my RV.

cad_man

2003 Newmar Kountry Star KSCA3301
Workhorse W22, Vortec 8.1L, Allison 5 Speed
Koni Shocks, Super Steer Track Bar, Davis TruTrack, Safe-T-Plus
FMCA 322927
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wkjohnsonb · 11-07-2003, 09:15 AM

mrsr71,

When I called I stated that the motor home was swaying and bobbing up and down, even on the freeway. The service man said, "isn't it funny how word gets around". I said, "yes, I had also read about the problem extensively on the Web". He said,"no problem, bring it in and we will replace all four for you". Done deal. Evidently he had heard from numerous others regarding the same problem. When I arrived to have them installed, he let me know that I would for sure feel a difference in the ride. He was correct.

W&K
2003 35 Adventurer
Workhorse 8.1, 22.5 tires
Honda Accord Toad
Brake Buddy

Bubba-B · 11-07-2003, 03:54 PM

The place in Redding is All Wheel Alinement ,18730 Old Oasis Rd. Phone 530 241-1010
Rob is the owner and a great guy to work with.We were able to stay right on their large lot with a table and all,they also ran a TV cable out so my wife could watch Survivor.
My 2000 Flair 25 Y had needed alot of help at only 12000 miles.They contacted Workhorse on my behalf and they agreed to pick up about 1/3 of the cost.The front steering linkage had alot of play also the Bell Crank.First they installed new parts that W.H approved,then we went to a Super Steer Bell Crank, took off the Air Bags and put on Super Steer Coil Springs.I already had Davis Tru Trak ,Bilstein shocks and Safe -T -Plus installed At about 4000 miles When I had the same problems every one is writing about..I should add that All Wheel weighed the rig and we test drove it till we got it right,( about 8 times).We also added Henderson Stabilizer Bar and Koni adjustable shocks to the rear. Now most of you may say (Over Kill) but after driving the full length of Baja and back it was worth every penny. Bubba-B

DriVer · 11-08-2003, 05:35 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by Bubba-B:
... but after driving the full length of Baja and back it was worth every penny. Bubba-B<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Another satisfied customer!

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not_lost · 11-17-2003, 03:43 PM

i just found this forumm and wanted to share my workhorse experience.
when i first called wh to have shocks replaced, they authorized Front Shocks only.
we had them replaced and it made a big difference. they wouldn't replace rears.
now, one month later i called and told them i needed rears replaced. they finally agreed, but with a "disclaimer" that the ride would be like a truck.
i'm going in wed for the replacement shocks..
anyone else change both front and rear? please let me know.