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Old 02-02-2016, 12:13 PM   #15
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I went outside on a whim and sat behind the steering wheel. I put the key in, jiggled the gear shift by making sure it was in park, jiggled the key in the ignition, and turned the key. I got the "ding ding" sound and lights on the dash. I tried to turn her over but she did not turn over. I pulled the key out and tried again but nothing happened. Could this be the ignition switch?
Not sure how technical you are. People are giving good advice here.
Don't get bogged down in checking the "House" related electrical.

The chassis comes from the factory with it's own electrical system.
There are very few things that a coach builder will do to modify the Chassis wiring system, other that install a chassis battery disconnect switch.

As mentioned earlier, if you start from the chassis battery, the first thing you will see is a disconnect switch (if there is one). Do you know if you have one, and what kind -- a manual switch, or a small rocker switch inside the coach which controls a relay?

Keep us posted, and don't be afraid to send pictures.

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Old 02-03-2016, 03:33 PM   #17
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After some research, I thought it may be the solenoids. I am getting a voltmeter and test light as recommended.

One thing I failed to mention with everything going on, was we took the house batteries out because they were old and out gassing, when we took our "maiden voyage," we completely forgot we took them out. When we put the new house batteries in, two 6v deep cycle batteries in series (we are going to expand the bank eventually), we noticed that one wire connecting the stairs was fired.

Today while tracing the wires, I could not see a stray wire or disconnected ground.

An interesting thing happened, before we turned the ignition, we had headlights. Once we turned the key, no headlights. Is it possible more wires were fired?
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After some research, I thought it may be the solenoids. I am getting a voltmeter and test light as recommended.

One thing I failed to mention with everything going on, was we took the house batteries out because they were old and out gassing, when we took our "maiden voyage," we completely forgot we took them out. When we put the new house batteries in, two 6v deep cycle batteries in series (we are going to expand the bank eventually), we noticed that one wire connecting the stairs was fired.

Today while tracing the wires, I could not see a stray wire or disconnected ground.

An interesting thing happened, before we turned the ignition, we had headlights. Once we turned the key, no headlights. Is it possible more wires were fired?
Ok Please enlighten me on why in the top pick you have a wire connector connected to a fuse prong and the other side of fuse in some kind f connector.... that can not be a good connection at all and it definitely isnt right. I dont see how that fuse would making good contact the the connection in that connector.... was that an Inline fuse at one time and it broke,,,I think I would fix that ASAP
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The fuse connection in the first pic

That is how it was in the old setup, see picture. Whoever had the rig before did that, so we replaced it exactly as it was before when it still ran.
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That is how it was in the old setup, see picture. Whoever had the rig before did that, so we replaced it exactly as it was before when it still ran.
That isnt right if its supposed to be a fuseable link then add it the right way for now get rid of it. Hook that wire straight to the post for now and see if you have power

Here is what I assuming should be there

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Well crap now that I Blow that picture up it looks like the yellow fuse is blown anyways LOL
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Yes, the fuse is blown in the old picture, that is what we changed. We put in the new battery disconnect relay with a new yellow fuse, the way it was in in the old setup.
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Interesting development

Tonight was the first time since the issue started that we tried the batter disconnect/connect switch. When we first tried it, we heard nothing from the engine compartment. Tonight we did. Also, we were able to get this result ONLY after toggling the battery disconnect/connect switch. This is also the area, just under the stairs, where the short originally happened.

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Sure acts like a dead battery to me
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That isnt right if its supposed to be a fuseable link then add it the right way for now get rid of it. Hook that wire straight to the post for now and see if you have power

Here is what I assuming should be there

Ok I dont think what I posted is right I dont have me MH here to look at the solenoids but something isnt right with the way that solenoid is hooked that is a given
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What you describe sounds like a failed alternator, which led to a dead battery. What is the voltage on the starting battery?
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Do you have a voltmeter?

That solenoid in the left side of the picture appears to be a latching type relay,. These are often used as "salesman switches". You can do a search for that and come up with a hundred pages.

This solenoid on many rv's is controlled by a switch somewhere near the entry usually and can control lots of functions. It is easy to test. Yes that fuse position is a bit strange but I suspect it may be ok that way. Find the switch I am referring to and have someone toggle it while you listen to that solenoid and then put a voltmeter from ground to each of the large posts. Assuming you have heard the solenoid clunk then the voltage should come and go on one post and remain solid on the other.

In your first post with your chassis batteries out you could have had the potential of a real disaster if the positive lead was left lying about. A severe short could cause all kinds of weird symptoms.

In any case, you also need to measure battery voltage from ground on each bank and post those readings.
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Motorhome now runs

Who knew something so small could cause so much trouble? It turned out to be the NTE Relay. In the picture is the old one. I replaced that and the rig started without even a hiccup.

I really want to thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for all the help, suggestions, and support. This really is an amazing community!

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