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Old 11-10-2013, 02:58 PM   #1
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Hardwire surge protector or portable?

I have yet to purchase a surge protector(shame on me) and was wondering why I have not heard of anyone buying a portable one and plugging your power cord into it and then run an extension cord out to the post. With our MH the surge protector can be locked inside the compartment. One of the first things I found I needed during our first extended trip was the 30 amp. extension cord. It is also one of the least used "had to haves". Using this method I will be able to take it with me when I sell/trade. Anything I'm over looking here? Safety issues?
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:06 PM   #2
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I like the Progressive hard wired EMS because it is secure and all the connections are secure. With a portable you have a couple of extra plug and socket connections to worry about. The hard wire also allows the remote to be visible in the RV if power issues arise.
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:16 PM   #3
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Hard wired.
You never have to worry about again.
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:18 PM   #4
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We have a protable one and we are having a problem with it. I can easily remove it and still power the MH.
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:24 PM   #5
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One point you might consider is every extra connection on power cords adds more heat problems at those connections. 30 Amp power is especially subject to this due to the high amp draw. A hard wired protector eliminates two of these types of connections. We purchased and installed a 30 amp surge protector from CW. It tests the campgrounds circuit and connects only when all is well. Great protection. Worth the cost and easy to install. Take it with you when you might sell the coach.
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:51 PM   #6
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I would worry about the heat build up on the plug (especially with 30 amp) inside the coach. Hard wired with remote read out, you can check on power without going outside. If you have a problem with it, flip the bi-pass switch.

+/-'s of either one. I prefer HW.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:52 PM   #7
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Most if not all surge protectors will sacrifice themselves to protect your rig during an extreme instance. Go to Surge Guard and look at an example of a "fried" unit. Really wouldn't want that inside or near my motorhome. Granted the chances are remote that a catastrophic event like would occur. Most units do a very fine job of protecting against surges as well as high and low voltage. But there is that one chance.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:12 PM   #8
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That's another reason to go with Progressive, Surge Guard only has a ONE year warranty. Progressive is forever.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:31 AM   #9
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I use a portable, because of me changing coaches every few years and I just transfer the portable unit to my next coach. It has protected me a few times. One problem with portable is if you have a poor connection at the campground's electrical post, and the plug of the portable surge protector is heated and damaged, they leave only a very short length of cord for replacing the plug. This may lead to a total replacement of the surge protector.

Second problem with a portable:
I had a friend with a damaged motorhome power plug (neutral wire pulled out of the terminal of the plug) and the portable surge did not protect the coach because the open neutral connection was down line of the surge protector. Their plug was constantly pulled out of the socket of the portable surge protector by its wires instead of the plug. In this case, a hard wired surge protector would have protected their coach. On a side note: This friend with many devices damaged from the open neutral wire (microwave, two televisions, VCR, converter, etc.) contacted their coaches insurance company (Progressive Insurance) and Progressive covered the damage. Their extended warranty (Good Sam) would not cover the damage because they said damage was caused by lack of maintenance.

If you have a metal compartment which is not combustible, then mounting a hard wired surge protector in the compartment should not lead to a fire even during a failure. If you have a carpeted metal compartment which is in contact with the plywood flooring, like mine, I would be reluctant to mount a surge protector in the compartment.

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We have a protable one and we are having a problem with it. I can easily remove it and still power the MH.
The Progrsssive Industries Hardwired has a bypass switch so there is never a problem of being without power if there is a problem. The EMS 50HW are designed for the lifetime "free" replacement board to blow and not ruin the entire EMS.

As for the removal question....I just removed my EMS 50HW from my Travel Supreme and it took ten minutes to remove it. Timed it on my cell phone as someone else asked the same question.

Me personally, I do not like the extra plugs and the resistance they cause so I use the hardwired model. For easier installation, go to Lowe's and have a piece of #6 romex cut for a jumper wire from your EMS to the transfer switch. That will cut the installaton time in half and save about a foot of your electric cord.
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I personally prefer the Progressive Industries because of warranty, reputation, etc. I used the HW-50C hard-wired unit. Works for me!
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Progressive EMS for warranty and capabilities. Portable or hard wired - pros and cons to each, as described in this thread. Either way an EMS is a must.
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:08 PM   #13
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Thanks everyone. I went with the hardwired Surge Guard. Picked the Surge Guard 30 amp. after finding an internet CW ad advertising it for $119.xx + tax, but only valid on internet orders. Printed the ad and took it to the local CW, showed them my Good Sam's card and they honored the internet price. That's about $155.00 off. Hopefully it will last.
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For you guys that have the hard wired unit. If you plug in at home over the winter to keep your batteries charged do you let the EMS connected in line or do you bypass it somehow?
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